I think I'm disfellowshiped. I chucked their letter and wouldn't speak to them so I am assuming that is what they did. It has been a real relief quite frankly.
Posts by nugget
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66What Status are you? Ex JW, Inactive, elder, MS...etc
by enigma1863 ini am technically inactive.
i was just curious if there are many people on the inside.
are there any within bethel itself?
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Are you DF'd? Share the weirdness, I'll start.....
by Pickler inso i started a reply on the topic of "what's your status?
" and it made me think about my df hearing (sorry i can't remember the exact term for what happened).. so i was fading, living in a different country, working & making rare appearances at my kingdom hall.
i was flat sharing with a sister though.
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nugget
I didn't go to my hearing. But they called every hour on the day of the JC and called at 9:30 that night to tell me their decision. I put the phone down on them and someone took the trouble to drive over to my house that night and post letters through the door with the wrong address on them. That was a little creepy. Oh and being cyber stalked and having facebook hacked and having all my JWN posts printed off that was also very creepy. Got to love the obsesssive nature of the religion.
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Heavy Metal Masturbation
by nugget ini apologise if this has been posted before, but it made me laugh.
http://youtu.be/txomtuugb4y.
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nugget
I apologise if this has been posted before, but it made me laugh
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Regarding "Scholar"---Does He Still Apologize For The Watchtower Organization Or Has He Learned...
by minimus insince he went to school?.
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nugget
needed a laugh and look there you were when I needed you.
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I've made an appointment to see the head teacher about God and creation
by not bitter ina bit of background.
my 6 year old talks about god an awful lot.
well more than i'm comfortable with.
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nugget
Go on the school website and look at their policy on collective worship, curriculum and teaching of religious education most schools in UK provide a link to this information. Uk schools usually confine Bible stories to RE or assembly times and the story should be presented as a story. Ask the Head teacher to clarify how this topic was being approached in school and what was the aim of the lesson. It may be that your child misunderstood the lesson and the purpose behind it. Also if you are armed with the policy information then you have the tools to challenge anything that is incorrect. Use the meeting to get clarity rather than confrontation. Explain that you are exploring other myths and faiths at home and ask if the school also will be covering other faiths and religions during the year.
Children can also be very literal at that age and have difficulty understanding the difference between reality and fiction. However they grow and develop and change their beliefs and ideas. Many young children believe in Santa but they grow to realise that he is a myth and presents come from mum and dad often God is also viewed differently as they grow older. In a faith school where religion is presented as a way to view the world young children will mimic this too. However as they grow up and move into the more secular world of secondary education they challenge this. What is important is to give them the tools and approval to use education wisely and learn how to take ideas and look at them critically.
Our children attended a Cof E school in Hampshire and have been taught about many religions not just the traditional Christian paradigm. My son now 10 still believes in God and has formed his own opinion of what his faith means to him. My daughter is not religious at all. She is older and once we left the religion she transitioned easily to a more secular viewpoint. My son will develop his ideas in his own time and I am happy to let him make his own discoveries what is important is that he knows that his viewpoint is not the only one and that there are many ways to look at the world. He also knows it is ok to question what you believe and not to accept things on face value. I wouldn't worry too much at this stage but just make sure that the teacher isn't presenting religion as science.
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please help
by joyfulfader ini am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.
we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.
she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.
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nugget
She has my sympathy. It may be worth her reading some of the posts by ex elders on this board to see what it was that caused them to question their faith. The elders have a different experience of the faith from the rank and file so it may help her to see what they do and how they act.
She does need to be very discreet if her husband is firmly committed to the religion it is unlikely he will be open to any talk that questions his faith and it may put their relationship in jeopardy.
I will be thinking of her. I was lucky to be the wife of an elder who also had doubts so managed to leave with our family intact but I know it can be difficult to achieve. For now educating herself is invaluable as is learning from other people's mistakes.
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Sometimes sorry isn't enough...
by cedars ini thought you might like to see a rare example of the society saying the actual word "sorry" in the literature.. in 1992 someone wrote in to the awake!
and their comment was published in the july 8th edition in the "from our readers" section, page 30.. their comment read as follows.... "your suggestion that sex education be considered a 'family secret' could accidentally result in great difficulty for some of your readers.
social workers, teachers, nurses, and other professionals are now trained to watch for signs of child abuse.
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nugget
Just the one sorry then. Congratulations on finding it shame there aren't more.
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just support please
by Roberta804 ini have had to make some very difficult decisions in recent days.
in one way i feel good about takeing care of myself and my mother who is on her dead bed in the room next to me.
mom has live with me since 2005 and started to make her journey to the other side on christmas day.
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nugget
I am so sorry to hear you are having this unecessary stress at a very difficult time. You are right to restrict access, if they do not know how to behave appropriately to you then there is also no guarantee they will know how to behave towards a dying woman. Unfortunaely JWs do not know how to apologise. I havre experienced something similar in my own family and it is incredibly frustrating when they are both rude and disrespectful and yet say they have done nothing wrong. If they are harrassing you then block their calls you really don't need the extra stress.
What is important right now is for your mum to get the support and comfort she needs in these last few days so she can pass in dignity knowing she is amongst those she loves and who love her.
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1/15 WT- Guilt, Guilt, and More Guilt ! Black & White Cult Reasoning !
by flipper inthis particular article was discussed or touched on a couple months ago regarding the wt society's statement concerning jw's putting " jehovah above everything else- including the family bond " .
so i won't address those points in this thread, but there are many other points to address where the wt society uses guilt and black & white cult reasoning to control jw's minds with this information from the article titled, " let nothing distance you from jehovah ".
first off in paragraph 5 the wt tries to make people feel guilty looking for work and insists that if you get any job that takes you away from family- it will distance you from jehovah !
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nugget
I was just remarking to my husband how lovely it is to have a Sunday morning without the need to wake up early and how lovely it is to have no schedule. As a witness you have to be focused on the task of worship and nothing else. By intruding into life outside the areas of worship the society is seeking to control every aspect of the person even when they are away from the kingdom hall.
To suggest that a pioneer is waking up at 6:00am to preach on a weekend is just another exageration to emphasise how most witnesses fall short. In other words "do you get up early to spend the maximum amount of time on the service at the weekend?" If you don't then there is something wrong with you. So if you are too tired for the service you need to feel guilt and if you get up for the service arrangement perhaps you could have been out even earlier.
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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...
by flipper in..... you to stop attending ?
injustices ?
disagree with the teachings ?
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nugget
Last meeting was a COs visit in March 2010. I had read Crisis of Conscience and Steve Hassan's book and could barely manage to sit through it. I had already been limiting meeting attendance as the meetings were harmful to my son who has Aspergers and the late evenings and forced silence as well as the apocalyptic message played to all his fears. However once I knew about the lies and hypocrasy and could see the manipulation and control I was deeply offended by it and would not dream of taking my children back there.
Once we made the decision to walk away we wanted to get out and stay out.