well i just watched this "epic" video, i would have to say this is probably the most disturbing video yet.
there campaign to get people back is just pathetic in the most mind-manipulating way.
"welcome home" or "come back home" are they serious?
Desperation pure and simple. They know they can't recruit anymore, all they have left are the lost souls who have wandered away and are getting shunned by their families. Pathetic.
Dumbshits still don't realize the power of the internet and how their lies have been exposed. Most who have left now know TTATT and either won't go back, or if they do its just to be able to contact family and they wont ever contribute a nickle to the pedophile protectors in New York.
the wt/jw has a presence in my town.
tax exempt status.
from what i understand the wt/jw is a for profit group that is taking advantage of the community as a whole.
L R Hubbard spent his last years on a boat 15 miles out in international waters so the who he could get caught on tax fraud.
Nice dodge. L Ron Hubbard is an individual, not an organization.
One more time...please name the many organizations that have lost their tax exempt status as religious frauds as you asserted above.
the wt/jw has a presence in my town.
tax exempt status.
from what i understand the wt/jw is a for profit group that is taking advantage of the community as a whole.
Many organizations have lost their tax exempt status as religious frauds
Here in the US? Care to name a few...I'm assuming that is where you are.
The Scientologists backed down the IRS. The JWs aren't going to lose their tax exempt status here, dare I say until all religions lose that status. Find another way to fight them.
a letter was read to the congregation last sunday.
i wasn't paying much attention until i heard stephen lett will be delivering a talk.
at first i thought it would be as a recorded video, as it was in the last assembly.
religious freedom taken from http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/religiousfreedom/index.htm#wrapper.
quotingdirectly from the article...."it is the responsibility of governments to safeguard universal human rights and fundamental freedoms, including the right to life and the freedom of conscience, belief, practice, worship, and to explain and change ones faith.........people cannot enjoy religious freedom unless they have both the right to express their beliefs freely and change their religion without facing persecution, violence, or discrimination.... (ask yourself if the wt article i'm quoting next is allowing the freedom to change religion without discrimination and persecution.
so with that being said.....is the wt protecting religious freedom?
. I guarantee if all ex jw's started putting a lot of pressure in law makers and the right departments even if they can't change the shunning policy it could force WT to stop publishing those instructions of human rights violations.
This is absurd. Why in the world would you think that the government wants to be involved in religious disputes over a silly little cult. The government got their ass handed to them by scientology. They made a mess of the Koresh situation, a far more whacked out cult than the JWs.
Expecting the government to solve the JW problem is a pipe dream, get over it.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
As far as why I choose to believe in the Christian God or the God of the Bible, is due to having witnessed, what many would consider coincidence but I would consider divine intervention. Yes, I can personally attest to prayers being answered just as asked.
So what about everyone else who doesn't get their prayer answered? Why are you so special? The Christian woman who got raped last week, and screamed out for God to save her? The 12 year old girl with the perverted stepdad that sneaks into her bedroom three times a week? The single mother who prays for enough food for her three children, but doesn't get an answer?
You were on the right road when you said coincidence. If God gets the credit for answering you, he also gets the blame for the other 98 percent of the time when he ignores prayers from people in worse circumstances.
this is a long shot to those with influence at bethel, particularly the governing body.
if you happen to be a lurker on this site.
please take into account the feelings of those who are affected or even hurting because of current teachings and policies emanating from watchtower.
They don't give a shit about you, you are expendable. Membership loss is built into the business model. The policies of the business are employed to keep the members captive for as long as possible.
Cutting off contributions is the only way those "in" can protest. Only until enough people inside decide that they've had enough and vote with their feet will the overlords consider any real changes.
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Already been said, but which God?
If you are referring to Jesus/Christian God/YHWH, I'm not down with his methods. Jesus himself threatens to burn me forever if I don't follow him, not cool.
in my dream a while ago, the wt had already started "encouraging" everyone to contribute 30. either it meant at least 30 hours of "preaching" or 30% tithe.
the next scene is when we all stood up for the opening song at the kh, and lo and behold - the opening lyrics went on like (this is vague but you'll understand the context anyway):.
what a privilege it is to serve the kingdom.
I've had dreams of simple being in attendance at a meeting or a convention.
Scary shit!
1. boring as s***e 2. extremely boring 3. boring as hell 4. boring.
5. slightly boring 6. not bad.
7. fair.
As a fully indoctrinated JW, I'd say most were a 4 or so. I would usually plop into the chair and veg. Sucked when I became an MS and an elder, they I had to fukkin pay attention a little more, or of course be ready to indoctrinate the troops for a spell.
Once you wake up, there is burning anger having to sit there. Then it just goes to level 0 until you make your escape forever.
All praise to the FSM for my FREEDOM from that garbage!
