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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

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  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  JW_Rogue

  Where am I? Well, as a born in I always felt that I didn't really believe everything 100% but for a long time I felt that this was the best way to live or at least convinced myself of that. Or my mind would fall back on the old "Where are we to go?" line of reasoning. As I've gotten into my middle age though I started thinking "if I wasn't born into a witness family would I join this religion?" the clear answer was "no". Then I started researching some thing like the UN NGO scandal. I started thinking about we were told that certain books were pivotal moments in JW history but how I'd never actually read them. So I went and read "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" and "Can We Talk To The Dead?" both by Rutherford as supposedly part of the FDS at the time. If you haven't read those then I suggest that you do. The absolute ridiculousness and unsupported statements will have you wondering just how stupid people were in the 1920s. It also hit just how much the true nature of these books have been concealed. Sure the WT will take a quote here and there that makes them sound like they had special insight but the overall content is not discussed. For example many times they used to point the the title of "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" and connect it to the generation teaching (at that time) but did they mentioned the main thrust that a great Resurrection would take place in 1925? Nope, glossed over that part and now that the generation teaching has been changed they never mention the book at all. What become clear to me was that this is an organization of men these men may feel guided by the spirit or they may not it really makes no difference because in my view they are not.
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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  JW_Rogue

  Good point! I may be six months away from the problem solving itself!
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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  JW_Rogue

  Maybe I'll become anointed then they'll question my sanity for sure. LOL
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  why gb asking for money?famine in land

  by poopie in

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  what do i mean well when there was a famine in israel david inquired of jehovah, jehovah told him that the gibeonites were not being treated right so until david fixed the problem of how they were being treated jehovahs blessing was withheld from the nation jehovah does not change until we start treating people right by not shunning them and anouncing sinners names from platform as no longer jw jehovah will not bless the efforts of those promoting unloveing behavior

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  JW_Rogue

  I think they are preparing for "persecution" in the form of lawsuits, losing tax exempt status and bad press. They need to build up that nest egg so they can continually show that "the work is speeding up". This is essentially a man's organization so I don't buy into the losing of Jehovah's blessing.
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  Born Ins Vs Converts

  by JW_Rogue in

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  did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?

  i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".

  that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.

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  JW_Rogue

  I guess I shouldn't have been insulted since deep down I always knew it was true at least in my case. lol
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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  JW_Rogue

  My wife is very much in although she complains about the Elders and cliques in the congregation she always comes back to the same point. This is the truth and weren't not here for people but for Jehovah. She couldn't watch the whole May Broadcast though because she said "I get it, we should give more" and walked out. Later though she actually did give more as a one time thing. So not sure what that says about where she is at.
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  Born Ins Vs Converts

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?

  i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".

  that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.

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  JW_Rogue

  Don't forget the many RBC Elders who own their own contracting company. It's amazing how many contractors are Elders.
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  Born Ins Vs Converts

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?

  i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".

  that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.

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  JW_Rogue

  Did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted? I always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth". That we were always suspected of being JWs to make our family happy. That our faith was less than those who converted. Also, those that converted after a career and marriage always seemed to find it odd that young JWs struggled with those things.
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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  JW_Rogue

  My wife's first language isn't English so maybe just plant the idea of moving to a foreign language congregation with her to learn the language. While I'm learning (which can take a long time) I won't be able to be a MS, FS will be a cursory presentation at best and I'll be able to miss meetings because they aren't in my language anyway.
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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  JW_Rogue

  Maybe you guys are right at some point I'll probably have to bite the bullet.