A brother in our hall commented about the old picture. He said that he had talked to ones from Bethel and the little girl looking out of the picture is a technique to make you feel like you're in the scene. Everyone thought that was so amazing and showed that the Great Tribulation is coming soon. When he said that my immediate reaction was of disgust. To me it showed an intentional emotional manipulation and fear mongering that was unbelievable.
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Will the Digital Apocalyptic Propaganda Backfire?
by jw07 inwith the roll out of watchtower 2.0 aka jw.org the corporation has been going to great lengths to bring the wacky doctrine that it has been preaching for decades to vivid reality.
they have been painstakingly staging not only bible fables with heavy prop use and post production, but are trying to bring to life their projected future for mankind.. more recently they have been trying to play on the fears that people have of scenarios such as martial law unfolding and integrating their great tribulation doctrine mumbo jumbo in.. regardless of what you think (for instance whether there may be martial law declared due to terrorist activity or natural disaster, or if that idea is just too far fetched) this sort of thing has a much greater impact when people see people placed in these scenes.
as illogical as the great tribulation doctrine may be, jws will not only place themselves in these scenarios, but will have their anticipation for them to be over with cranked up.. .
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Back in the Basement
by LostGeneration inlooks like the faithful jws are back in the basement, the oct 15th wt has this image on page 9. but now the lights have been turned out!
i guess the persecution is really kicking in if the electric company has shut off their electricity, or the jws are really, really paranoid that the government is gonna get them if they have the lights on!.
only one guy is smart enough to use his tablet (far right), the rest of the jws are old school, using a lantern to read their bibles in the dark!
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JW_Rogue
At the meeting the brothers and sisters will say "We must be so close to the Great Tribulation!" like the fact that it is in a WT is some kind of sign in itself. Or some even think the brothers at WT know something is coming that we don't. How is it not clear that this is manipulation? That this is to strengthen unity and loyalty to the org? Sometimes I look around and wonder what the other brothers and sisters think in private about this kind of stuff. -
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My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue inso that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
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Yes, it is a shame that something that is supposed to be a privilege is actually just another chore. Something that is supposed to be voluntary is really done through coercion, I already know that they were a few Elders who really didn't want me appointed in the first place. Now though I think I've become useful to them and that is the reason I stay on. -
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My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue inso that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
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I've thought about this as well especially if they decide to study the new "God's Kingdom Rules!" book. Some carefully worded answers may help some to see what is really going on. Of course it gets tricky to sound sincere and not be exposed by someone. -
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My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue inso that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
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Where am I? Well, as a born in I always felt that I didn't really believe everything 100% but for a long time I felt that this was the best way to live or at least convinced myself of that. Or my mind would fall back on the old "Where are we to go?" line of reasoning. As I've gotten into my middle age though I started thinking "if I wasn't born into a witness family would I join this religion?" the clear answer was "no". Then I started researching some thing like the UN NGO scandal. I started thinking about we were told that certain books were pivotal moments in JW history but how I'd never actually read them. So I went and read "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" and "Can We Talk To The Dead?" both by Rutherford as supposedly part of the FDS at the time. If you haven't read those then I suggest that you do. The absolute ridiculousness and unsupported statements will have you wondering just how stupid people were in the 1920s. It also hit just how much the true nature of these books have been concealed. Sure the WT will take a quote here and there that makes them sound like they had special insight but the overall content is not discussed. For example many times they used to point the the title of "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" and connect it to the generation teaching (at that time) but did they mentioned the main thrust that a great Resurrection would take place in 1925? Nope, glossed over that part and now that the generation teaching has been changed they never mention the book at all. What become clear to me was that this is an organization of men these men may feel guided by the spirit or they may not it really makes no difference because in my view they are not.
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My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue inso that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
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Good point! I may be six months away from the problem solving itself! -
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My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue inso that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
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Maybe I'll become anointed then they'll question my sanity for sure. LOL -
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why gb asking for money?famine in land
by poopie inwhat do i mean well when there was a famine in israel david inquired of jehovah, jehovah told him that the gibeonites were not being treated right so until david fixed the problem of how they were being treated jehovahs blessing was withheld from the nation jehovah does not change until we start treating people right by not shunning them and anouncing sinners names from platform as no longer jw jehovah will not bless the efforts of those promoting unloveing behavior
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JW_Rogue
I think they are preparing for "persecution" in the form of lawsuits, losing tax exempt status and bad press. They need to build up that nest egg so they can continually show that "the work is speeding up". This is essentially a man's organization so I don't buy into the losing of Jehovah's blessing. -
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Born Ins Vs Converts
by JW_Rogue indid you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?
i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".
that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.
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I guess I shouldn't have been insulted since deep down I always knew it was true at least in my case. lol -
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My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue inso that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
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My wife is very much in although she complains about the Elders and cliques in the congregation she always comes back to the same point. This is the truth and weren't not here for people but for Jehovah. She couldn't watch the whole May Broadcast though because she said "I get it, we should give more" and walked out. Later though she actually did give more as a one time thing. So not sure what that says about where she is at.