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  "Bible Teach" book study--is it real?

  by AmyWatson916 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's want to begin a study through their new "what does the bible really teach?

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  should a non-jw study with them just to point out the contradictions and muddled thinking in the book?

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  No, if you're not a JW then they won't listen to you anyway you would be wasting your time. If they suspect that you are looking at any apostate material they will write you off and stop listening to anything you have to say. JWs are instructed that they are to look for "right hearted ones." What this really means is that they are to look for people who want to believe and be taught, not people who want to debate or challenge doctrine.
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  Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wasn't sure where to put this but .... .

  so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?

  the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.

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  I'm realizing that w exjws there's probably two schools of thought....
  a) People who think that the GB are in it for the $$
  b) People who think that the GB are delusional whackadoodles who think they're the bees knees.

  c) People who think the GB are manipulators but not for money, simply for power and control. There is no way to look at some of the content they have been releasing and not see that they are clearly and intentionally manipulating people's emotions. The whole GT bunker video series is not really about the GT at all, it is about modifying JWs thoughts and actions to be more in line with WT. I think they all know that most of what they say is rubbish. They may feel that the ends justify the means or that people will ultimately be happier as JWs. However, there is no way they believe these end time scenarios and prophecies that they use to keep people in line.

  
  
  
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  Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wasn't sure where to put this but .... .

  so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?

  the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.

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  No, because they know the GT is fake and bunkers cost a lot of money. Kool-aid packets can be shipped to individual Kingdom Halls, problem solved. LOL
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  Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.

  even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".

  it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!

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  Darryl, great point, if this is the great tribulation then what was it that JWs and others faced during Nazi Germany? What is it called when in many places right now JWs face extreme poverty? I think this video shows just how biased the GB is towards an American point of view.
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  Which Public Talks did you enjoy giving/hearing? And which ones did you dislike giving or hearing?

  by humblepotato in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just going through some of my talk outlines and i've decided to git rid of quite a few of them.

  i'm still serving, but as time goes on... there are many subjects i will not teach anymore.. i got rid of the outlines dealing with blood, the field ministry, and ones talking about 607 and 1914. i can barely stand hearing them let alone give them.

  in fact, talk 41 "stand still and see the salvation of jehovah" is one i got rid of because its whole point was about having blind obedience toward the gb and the elders during the great tribulation, and that we need to start practicing obedience now if we want to survive.

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  Don't remember the title but there is one about creation that tries to disprove evolution. Absolutely ridiculous! It takes the debatable points and tries to argue those but avoids the hard questions that JWs just can't answer.
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  Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.

  even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".

  it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!

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  And why are they considering themselves so blessed to be sitting in a bunker reading scriptures? Kevin's probably at Starbucks drinking a latte enjoying not being a JW. LOL
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  From yesterday WT, don't have kids and if you do then don't see them often nor the grandkids either

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  unbelievable paragraph in yesterday's watchtower was "encouraging" the sheep to not have kids.

  most of their growth comes from the born ins and they are still on about not having kids?.

  then it went on to "encourage" those that do have kids or grandkids not to spend to much time with them and instead to spend their time serving kingdom interests!.

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  It's statements like this that make me suspect they really believe their own nonsense. If they were cynical about the end times and more interested in growth, there's no way they would discourage having children, is there?

  I have the feeling that they like to throw different things out there because they know it will appeal to different groups. For example they may have an article on how children are a blessing from Jehovah. This appeals to young families and encourages them to raise their kids "in the truth". Then you have a statement like this which may appeal to young couples who don't have kids who want to travel, learn a language etc. Now they have a way to do those things while still being super spiritual. They know that people are going to have kids no matter what, it is human nature, so I doubt they will ever feel the need to encourage having more kids.
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  JWs aren't stupid

  by cognisonance in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the title is a bit of click bait.

  but here's the alternative title: what stupid beliefs/ideas did you have while an active jw.. i think the majority of jws that don't have obvious mental health issues are not stupid, just un/under-educated.

  for example, i now accept evolution as a thing, not a controversy or conjecture.

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  Telling lies is complicated, but the truth is simple. The world has numerous books on evolution, and they are anything but simple. Thus, we know evolution is a lie

  This is an idea that WT promotes that anything that is the "real truth" will be simple and easy to understand. It will have the "ring of truth" as they say. In reality, the universe and life are complicated with many factors to consider. Most people are too lazy to look at everything and make their own decisions. WT offers a shortcut by appealing to the bible as an authority. Then as people "study the bible" with JWs the authority is passed along to the WT organization and ultimately the GB.
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  Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.

  even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".

  it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!

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  JW_Rogue

  I watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange. Even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "It wasn't always that way". It was always that way, none of them had actually sinned! The point being even if you haven't really done anything to be disloyal you still need to do more and think more like a WT drone. Stop thinking you're own thoughts and start quoting WT articles.
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  Does GB 2.0 Have The Guts To Publish A Book On Revelation?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so we all know that the old revelation book is "old light" and the gb would like to sweep it under the rug.

  however, since they have been reinterpreting many of the parables from the gospels, many jws are confused as to how it all fits in with the book of revelation.

  plus, they have been emphasizing the nearness of the end and the gt.

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  It would also bring up the whole "the UN is the scarlet colored wild beast" that they have been trying hard to not mention lately. I think they would like to do it but it would take someone with creativity that they just don't have right now. Plus if they just throw out everything and start fresh that will look very bad as the Revelation book was the authority on end time prophecies for JWs. What they could do is take different prophecies from all over the bible and put them in one book, that would allow them to cherry pick the ones they want to emphasize and ignore the ones that never really made any sense.