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  Only one real point per WT study...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?

  it's like a formula.

  intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).

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  In hypnosis we call this a "yes set". You get someone to agree with something minor, then get them to agree with another minor or ambiguous thing then they're more than likely to agree with the third because the brain likes consistency.
  The WT are introducing a basic bible idea (yes), then another (yes) than a cult message (yes).

  Interesting point, they build people up by making them feel smart, then if they really want to keep that feeling they have to agree with WT on everything. It fails when you don't even believe the basic nonsense anymore.
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  Only one real point per WT study...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?

  it's like a formula.

  intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).

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  Has anyone else noticed that in the WT study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?

  It's like a formula

  Intro and overview paragraphs 1-4

  Basic WT stuff 5-8 (not controversial)

  Bible examples 9-10

  Cult stuff to remember 11-14

  More bible examples 15-18

  Remember doing good means everlasting life 19-20
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  If shunning was not a tool used by jw what would happen

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  to organization.

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  More people would be there because, like the Catholics or any of the others, you can do whatever you want without repercussions. You could attend a public talk without the disgrace or shunning. You could feel good about yourself.

  I really doubt this very much even if they took away shunning their core doctrines would still be judgmental and negative. Maybe some people would show up once a month, or go to the memorial for family. Overall, though, active zealous members would go way down. They would have to change everything to be a place casual church goers would enjoy.

  
  
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  I Like A Girl From Kingdom Hall Please HELP!!!!!!!!

  by kennylazo1 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  abby has been in my congregation for about 2 years i think.

  when she first came i thought she was very beautiful and i still do.

  shes actually one of the most prettiest darkskins you will ever see.

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  Okay, here's the deal, at the age you're at girls don't generally like younger guys. Maybe, if you wait a few years but by that time she'll probably be married (that's just how JWs are). She probably just liked the attention when she was younger. I went through something similar in my teens not realizing that flirting doesn't always lead to anything. It didn't help that I was terrible at meeting girls and JW life doesn't lend itself to meeting people your own age. I would say forget about her and try to meet more girls at school closer to your age.
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  If shunning was not a tool used by jw what would happen

  by poopie in

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  You'd probably have about 1 million active true believers and everybody else would eventually leave
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  Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.

  believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.

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  I would like a sign that simply reads "What if it's not true?" in big red letters
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  District overseers

  by Boredposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are they really gone in the u.s.?

  what replaces them?.

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  I think COs just report directly to the branch now. No one I knew ever had any clue what DOs did anyway.
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  So What Drastic Money Change is Next?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, they cheapened the product by getting rid of hardcover books.

  they reduced printing of mags.

  they drastically reduced the number of pieces of printed paper that members would "place" in people's hands in various ways, the biggest one being that they put them on a cart and don't encourage people to take them.they cut d.o.

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  I think we'll definitely see the end of all printed materials except for field service magazines, bible teach books, and small tracts. Otherwise you better be using the app on your tablet. They will push the convenience of donating through recurring payments online but I doubt they'll force anyone, just apply guilt liberally like they always do. I think regional conventions will get smaller as they move to venues they can own and control. Which could backfire because part of the reason people donate at RCs is because they think it's expensive to rent the site.
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  I just watched the final video from this years convention. OMG!!!

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am shaking all over right now.

  i think it's worse that the bunker video.. i used to think there was no way that these people would actually "drink the cool aid" if you get my drift, but seeing this video i am now not sure it could never happen.. having a wife who i love dearly trapped in this cult is really freaking me out right now...

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  A tribulation where people still work at clothing stores and machine shops, attend board meetings, go to school and movie theaters, use their cell phones, etc., is no tribulation at all.

  I think they have been doing this kind of thing for awhile, when they chose to focus on one part they skip the details of what leads up to it. Only back when we studied the Revelation book did they really try to make sure the timeline made sense. Most people don't care anymore, another big message at the convention was "don't worry about the details of paradise, just make sure you get there," how very convenient.

  
  
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  I just watched the final video from this years convention. OMG!!!

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am shaking all over right now.

  i think it's worse that the bunker video.. i used to think there was no way that these people would actually "drink the cool aid" if you get my drift, but seeing this video i am now not sure it could never happen.. having a wife who i love dearly trapped in this cult is really freaking me out right now...

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  Yeah, I thought the JW's believed a "Great Tribulation" preceded this attack upon them. I thought they believed this tribulation would be pretty severe. (As in no flesh being saved if it lasted too long...)
  Have they abandoned this idea or are they taking liberties with their own teachings?

  Not really, they had just focused on the Gog of Magog thing earlier in the day so it was sort of a running theme. I'm guessing that they just assume that the JWs who are into prophecy will just remember how all of it is supposed to play out. Many others will just like the emotional appeal of having Jesus rescue them from "this system of things."