It's amazing what you'll realize if you just allow yourself to consider the option that WT is wrong. Once that option no longer scares you, you can read the WT and Awake and see that they are full of half truths and propaganda. That WT uses emotional manipulation to keep it's members in line. Of course, WT has trained members to never consider this option and that only cynical or hard headed ones would do so. JWs are trained to find fault in everything: politics, mainstream Christianity, charities, business, romance, holidays. Everything except WT.
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Why the term "waking up?"
by Sour Grapes inis the term "waking up" the best way to describe when a jdub starts to have doubts?
to me, it is rather that a jdub realizes that what they have believed for years was a pack of lies and then they have to make a conscious decision if they want to continue to believe in lies or stop being a jdub or just go along for the ride.. it just amazes me how many die-hard jdubs there are despite every failed prophecy about the end coming, the borg being a part of the dreaded wild best united nations, the put down of women in the borg, the massive cover-up of the child abuse in the borg, the willingness to let a child die because they need blood, and the eagerness to shun a child who at the age of 10 got dunked to make mommy and daddy happy only to not want to be a jdub later and have the parents treat them like they are dead because 8 overweight, balding, goofy looking, incoherent men in upper state new york say that are the rules for being a christain.. jehovah's witnesses are a very sad cult that attracts people with emotional, psychological, or medical issues, have very large egos, can't make simple decisions, and believe in the tooth fairy..
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Fewer Americans believe in GOD, yet they still believe in the afterlife.
by James Mixon inexcuse me, don't make sense to me.
what say you...
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Perhaps we experience consciousness again but it isn't connected to any past lives. In a sense, we have no past lives but are truly starting over. In a way it would make sense, everyday lives are being born with consciousness, who is to say we won't experience it first hand in the future. The fact that we were born as ourselves and not someone else is already one of the great mysteries of life.
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Fewer Americans believe in GOD, yet they still believe in the afterlife.
by James Mixon inexcuse me, don't make sense to me.
what say you...
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The concept of a rebirth is not dependent on any deity, as long as life is being produced there is the chance that we'll experience another life.
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Proof of God
by MrDantastic ini'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.
i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.
hmu..
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How Atheists explain this phenomenon? Is it only a coincidence? Why the idea of God is the most popular idea in a Godless world?
The human brain naturally (through evolution) likes to order and classify things, the idea that something is simply unknowable is simply unsatisfactory. The concept of God is great way to classify the unknowable. In addition it allows us humans to create a God that we feel reflects our humanity and values. This is the reason that God always seems to be redefined as society's values change.
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My 2018 convention review (BR)
by Ray Frankz inso this years convention was all about:.
1) neutrality means not taking sides.
jws must not have any opinions about politics, even if it affects you or your job or your social class directly.. also .
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Someone posted on facebook that they said JWs are supposed to just about shun anyone who is no a JW.
Is this true? Even family members, the FB poster was saying.Not quite. They never came out and said that but it was implied that even being friendly at work, going out to lunch or happy hour with workmates could lead to bad things like thinking for yourself. The also mentioned that spending a lot of time with "worldly" family members could be bad for you spiritually as well, instead try to convert all the time.
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Proof of God
by MrDantastic ini'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.
i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.
hmu..
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Black holes, what kind of god makes black holes??
Maybe eventually the black holes eat up all the energy and matter in the universe and condense it allowing another big bang to occur and a new universe to be born.
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Proof of God
by MrDantastic ini'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.
i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.
hmu..
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ExJW here also. I am not an atheist because I can not prove a universal Neg. It would take faith to say you are an atheist. I am an Agnostic. I can not prove there is or is not a god but since I have seen no evidence of one, I tend to lean that there is not.
An impersonal God that exist solely as a power outside of our physical universe would be pretty hard to disprove. However, a personal God with a personality like that described in the bible is easy to disprove as there our many contradictions to his personality found in nature. To get around this JWs fall back on "Satan did it" and "Imperfection though."
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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?
by blownaway inmy mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
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I could be a smoker. Into drugs. Who knows? It's the story of anything. The butterfly effect. If you change the littlest thing, your life could have a totally different arc and maybe not good.
I think parents can raise good, moral, and sober kids without religious brainwashing. Would it have happened with my family? It's really hard to say one way or another. I think it's best not to worry too much about the past. It's important to realize that even if being raised the way we were did keep us out of trouble, it doesn't mean we owe anything to the org or our family. We still have the right to believe whatever we want and to live accordingly.
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Welcoming Our Latest JW Apologist JTrottigy
by pale.emperor ini'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.
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he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..
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If they were smart they would only put attractive young people on cart duty.
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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?
by blownaway inmy mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
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I am not resentful because looking back at the circumstances it makes perfect since that she would fall for JW doctrine. I'm sure she felt it was the best way to raise us, that we were protected from bad influences, drugs, alcohol, promiscuity. The sad part is in all the years that have past she has never questioned whether it is really the truth.