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  You Can Be Happy As A JW If...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  you are delusional.

  meaning that you believe everything that the wt says 100% without questioning it all.

  you believe there is no other source of truth or valid view points.

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  1. You are delusional. Meaning that you believe everything that the WT says 100% without questioning it all. You believe there is no other source of truth or valid view points. Truth is absolute and is provided by the WTBS. These delusions make you content because you know in your heart the reward of everlasting life is coming...soon.
  2. You have many companions. Notice how I said companions and not friends? That's because these spiritual friends know that they would have to dump you at a moments notice if you had an original thought. That's okay though because at least you have gatherings to go to and people to talk to about superficial things.
  3. You don have any personal ambitions. Giving up a huge chunk of your time to organizational activities isn't really a big deal because you have no personal ambitions or desires anyway. Get a better job? No thanks, too much stress. Hobbies? That's a waste of time. Reading? Only the WT for me!
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  If death is a natural occurrence in the human species, why are we born with the innate feeling to continue living indefinitely?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there are some people that do in fact want to die.

  these people include the mentally unstable, emotionally imbalanced, and those suffering from ailments or diseases, just to name a few.. i've never met however, anyone, or heard of anyone, who is of sound mind, who just awoke one day and thought it would be an excellent day to die......naturally.. your thoughts?.

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  It seems absurd and inexplicable in many ways that evolution is responsible for our insanely complex minds and bodies to so rapidly and perfectly form inside the womb in only 9 months, we are then born and continue to grow for another 20 years, but soon thereafter start to deteriorate and die after only 75-90 years.

  Not really in evolutionary terms the most important thing you can do is procreate. Once you have reached maturity and passed on your genes your purpose is fulfilled.
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  Is the 'growth™' still being hyped?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i was a member of watchtower corporation, i regularly heard how it must be the true religion because of the growth™.

  (phenomenal, apparently).. i wonder if they still hang onto this?

  has it been boasted about at meetings recently?

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  Lately I've noticed that instead of growth the'll say the work is "speeding up". To me this implies that even if people don't respond the message is getting out to more people faster. This is usually when they are talking about technology or the cart witnessing. Not sure if that is really true, even if it is, it is meaningless if no one cares enough to listen.
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  The diabolical plan of the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  diabolical, or just really dumb, desperate and grasping for control; either way, the devil is in the details of the january 15, 2016 "study edition" of the watchtower tractazine.

  so, we have two intertwined articles concerning "anointed" individuals within the sect of the wtbts inc. "the spirit bears witness with our spirit.

  " and "we want to go with you people.

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  Yes, listener they did used to say that when the number of anointed was trending down. It was like a countdown to the GT. Now, that it is going up, it is insignificant and inaccurate. Funny how that works.
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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  If you look at the topics from 12 years ago till now its always about... the WT is in decline,... the WT will collapse,.. the WT is desperate,.. the Internet will kill the WT,... the WT has cash flow problems. Still 12 years later the WT is still here,.. is still growing,.. is still alive and kicking,.. is still spending hundreds of millions a year on all kind of projects and stuff,.. is just doing fine and to me it seems they will continue to do so.

  You could make the same basic argument about JWs in general. 100 years of Christ's invisible reign, and what exactly has been accomplished? A minuscule following of 8 million out of 7 billion people, no charitable works, not one true prophetic interpretation. Just a bunch of people wasting hours of their lives every week on nonsense. Being manipulated and coerced into growing a new religion. If WT failed tomorrow what would we truly lose? Nothing, because the ORG is all about taking and never about giving.
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  The diabolical plan of the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  diabolical, or just really dumb, desperate and grasping for control; either way, the devil is in the details of the january 15, 2016 "study edition" of the watchtower tractazine.

  so, we have two intertwined articles concerning "anointed" individuals within the sect of the wtbts inc. "the spirit bears witness with our spirit.

  " and "we want to go with you people.

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  This is true most JWS of even my era in the 60's and 70's didn't know that the WTS under C T Russell proclaimed that the generation starting from 1874 was the generation to witness the GT and 1914 was the assumable year for Armageddon.

  IDK I feel like this is different somehow. In those instances there were recalculations or they would change tactics and start looking at other prophecies, jubilee years, 7000 years since Adam etc. In this case they have literally nothing to base this on at all except trying to redefine a common term. I don't think the young people are fooled one bit and middle aged people live through the failure. Then again I always thought "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" was about the generation teaching too until I finally read it for myself.
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  The diabolical plan of the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  diabolical, or just really dumb, desperate and grasping for control; either way, the devil is in the details of the january 15, 2016 "study edition" of the watchtower tractazine.

  so, we have two intertwined articles concerning "anointed" individuals within the sect of the wtbts inc. "the spirit bears witness with our spirit.

  " and "we want to go with you people.

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  Because that would essentially eliminate the 1914 doctrine and they don't want to do that being that it was such a core doctrine for the organization for such a long time.

  It would still be there just without the false hope that something has to happen within our lifetime. They already tried that, by the time this new generation teaching fails they will have lost all credibility. I don't think this is adding any urgency to the message, most people don't understand it (because it doesn't make sense). With the first generation teaching there was urgency because the interpretation made sense (if you believe in types and anti-types that is). Many who were taught the generation teaching also didn't realize that the WT had made numerous other failed predictions. I remember being taught that 1975 was never really predicted by the WT society. That a high level apostate came up with the idea. In retrospect they were blaming the whole thing on Ray Franz. Plus, we were about to enter a new century and millennium so the feeling was that something would happen soon. That level of urgency isn't coming back, people don't even talk about Armageddon anymore. The Revelation book has been discontinued and I don't see a replacement coming soon.
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  Who has made an unforgivable sin against the holy spirit?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all sin and some sins are worse than others but blasphemy against the holy spirit is said to be unforgivable.what is considered to be an unforgivable sin?

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  Village Idiot, you can be forgiven, just don't say: the Holy Spirit is not operating through the WTBS and their Governing Body
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  The diabolical plan of the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  diabolical, or just really dumb, desperate and grasping for control; either way, the devil is in the details of the january 15, 2016 "study edition" of the watchtower tractazine.

  so, we have two intertwined articles concerning "anointed" individuals within the sect of the wtbts inc. "the spirit bears witness with our spirit.

  " and "we want to go with you people.

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  As far as the WT study goes the whole thing was bizarre. While at the meeting I was underlining and circling all the crazy stuff and when I looked back at my underlining they were all the answers to the paragraphs. No one seemed to notice that the first half was about not judging those who profess to be anointed but the second half was about all the reasons those who partake probably aren't anointed at all. Oh, and don't forget the parts designed to let partakers know that they aren't anything special, only the GB is really important. LOL How are people not seeing this for what it is?
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  The diabolical plan of the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  diabolical, or just really dumb, desperate and grasping for control; either way, the devil is in the details of the january 15, 2016 "study edition" of the watchtower tractazine.

  so, we have two intertwined articles concerning "anointed" individuals within the sect of the wtbts inc. "the spirit bears witness with our spirit.

  " and "we want to go with you people.

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  As time marches on, the WTBTS finds themselves in the position of needing to go to their vaults and pull out "shelved ideas", to quote David Splane. As each former idea proves incorrect ( or correct/incorrect/correct/incorrect, as in the case of flip-flops) it must be a bit frustrating for the GB and their Writing Dept. Can you even imagine being wrong almost every single time you say something?

  That's one thing I don't get about the overlapping generation idea, they do realize that this will also have to be changed again at some point? Why not redefine generation as the general group of anointed on earth? As long as anointed ones still exist (and that number is actually rising) they could still say the interpretation is correct. Instead they come up with another explanation with a sell by date. Don't they learn their lesson?