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The question of who man/woman actually is...
by The Rebel in
1. jw
2. friends
naturally leads to the question of god.

why does man need god?

why does man create god?
JW_Rogue

left to himself man serves his fallen flesh
Meaning what exactly?
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.
JW_Rogue

Maybe it is physically impossible for nothing to exist - for there to ever be absolutely nothing. Maybe existence is the fundamental pillar of reality itself.
Interesting idea, then that would mean that matter or energy has always been around in some form perhaps undergoing cycles of expansion and retraction. Universes dying and being reborn. All speculation of course but still more interesting than having all "the answers" in a little book.
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.
JW_Rogue

So let me see if I can get the reasoning straight:
Everything that has a beginning has a cause.
The universe had a beginning.
The universe must have had a cause.
The unknown cause must be God.
The God must be a personal God.
The God must be the one described in Christianity.
The God must have inspired 66 books which are now called the Bible.
It all makes logical sense if you start with what you want to believe and work backwards. Just like JWs do with their doctrines.
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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.
JW_Rogue

WiFi - So wait, they are going to replay the Jesus videos that they played last year?
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Do JWs ever doubt that the end is really coming?
by dogon in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
as a former dubber i had many occasions to doubt that the end was coming.

i was told it was ok to doubt but not to think about it too much and wait on jehovah.

that bull shit lasted until they changed the meaning of generation in 95 and that was the end of that bull shit for me.
JW_Rogue

I think everyone has doubts sometimes, most JWs simply suppress those doubts with a facade of confidence and thought stopping WT phrases. Since they are always around other JWs the group reinforces the belief that the end is...soon.
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"Death will be no more" - ONLY earthly blessing?
by TheWonderofYou in
1. watchtower
2. bible
todays daily text refers to a new?

explanation for doorkeepers that "death will be no more" would only refer to an earthly blessing, because it would be logically according to the text that in heaven no one ever died or death had never been there.

seems like wishful argument for the earthly paradise.. dont forget the 144000 members of the heavenly class that will receive heavenly blessing after death and used for decades rev.
JW_Rogue

Man dies because he has fallen from grace and is sinful. He must restore his relationship with God through his redeemer Jesus Christ. Dogs and cats die because...hey, who cares they're just dumb animals? LOL
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.
JW_Rogue

And something from nothing isn't magic? At least with magic you start with a magician. Materialists start with literally nothing. Why isn't this happening now?
We don't know that it was something from nothing, we can only observe our physical universe and come up with models of how the universe formed. Many scientist say that time didn't even exist until the big bang, that the physical and chemical laws that govern the universe didn't exist yet. While that may sound magical it is based on something. The idea of personal God who is outside of our physical universe but still controlling matters isn't based on anything observable. It is a combination of speculation and faith, not evidence. It is my opinion that there will never be a time when man will be able to have all the answers. That's okay we don't need to have them. Saying "I don't know" is better than just making something up.
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.
JW_Rogue

Once you accept a cause beyond our space/time universe Occams razon doesn't apply. The simplest explanation is that space and time were manipulated as opposed to waiting around for 14 billion years.
Think of when you are looking for a particular scene in a movie that you wish to replay to show someone. You can certainly start from the beginning and make your guest wait an hour until the scene emerges, or you could just hit the Fast Forward button.Which is the simplest course of action, assuming the technology?
This is called magical thinking with no basis in any observable facts. JWs specialize in these types of explanations.
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Possible Names For New XJW Books...
by JW_Rogue in
1. jw
2. experiences
just what it sounds like list some titles that you think would be good for an xjw memoir or book.

just for fun:.

-the real, real life.
JW_Rogue

Just what it sounds like list some titles that you think would be good for an XJW memoir or book. Just for fun:
-The Real, Real Life
-The Pill Less Swallowed
-Revelations & Regulations
-Young Person Asks: Am I In A Cult?
-How To Wash Your Brain
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Don't Want To Be At The RC This Year...
by JW_Rogue in
1. jw
2. experiences
the whole time i'll just be thinking about what effect all those crazy loyalty videos will have on my family.

i can venture to guess that they'll be wound up and determined to "stay loyal" because this "is the truth" and "this system can't last much longer".

i have to go because not doing so would raise too much suspicion but i'm really dreading it.
JW_Rogue

Why not try for "Security?" Then you can muscle any protesting apostates from the venue!
The brothers don't do security at our venue, we actually have a small group of real security guards on call (not JWs). I think this has to do with lawsuits from people who were "escorted" out of the venue by attendants.