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  Anti-religion T-Shirt idea

  by Simon in

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  i want a t-shirt.

  something that says "religion is crap, i don't care which one".. i was thinking of adapting the "coexist" one to say "toxic" instead which is great because it removes 'science' but includes all the major world religions.. anyone else have any ideas?.

  also a tag-line ... "whatever god you worship, he's a weirdigan".

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  I actually find these quite terrible and will likely just make religious people think that they are being persecuted if they see one.
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  Do you still believe in the concept of absolute truth?

  by JW_Rogue in

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  jws very much believe that there is an absolute truth and of course, they are the only ones who have it lol.

  how about now though do you still believe that absolute truths exist?

  or is everything subjective?

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  JWs very much believe that there is an absolute truth and of course, they are the only ones who have it LOL. How about now though do you still believe that absolute truths exist? Or is everything subjective?
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  Moments Of Clarity As A Born In JW

  by JW_Rogue in

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  -when i was in my early teens we were studying the revelation book for the second time.

  the first time i didn't understand much but the second time i remember that my family had quite a lengthy discussion about the lake of fire.

  they were trying make sense of the scripture and the jw interpretation.

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  Oops, I forgot about the 2013 annual meeting that every hall in the US was tied into. At first I was actually very interested and felt like something big was going to be revealed. Then the announcement of the new bible came and that was nice but not earth shattering. Then the final talk was given by Tony Morris of the GB. Now being that almost all JWs were going to hear this talk I felt like it was going be something really rousing. That the GB would have gotten together and come up with something to show why we should continue on, why the preaching work was important, to commend the Brothers for all the work they do. Instead Tony Morris starts off on his list of things he doesn't like and instead of saying he'll support his talk through scriptures he says it is all supported by "our publications."
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  Moments Of Clarity As A Born In JW

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  -when i was in my early teens we were studying the revelation book for the second time.

  the first time i didn't understand much but the second time i remember that my family had quite a lengthy discussion about the lake of fire.

  they were trying make sense of the scripture and the jw interpretation.

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  My moments of clarity were mostly with regards to shunning and the higher education ban

  I actually went to college and continued as an auxiliary pioneer, I think for a short period they relaxed on the higher education thing as long you weren't leaving home to go live in a dorm.

  
  
  
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  No Reason For JWs To Go To The MIdweek Meeting (CLAM)

  by JW_Rogue in

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  everything that is done at the midweek meeting can now be done at home.

  the videos are online, the first talk is scripted, the bible highlights are scripted.

  you could get the same experience by just reading and watching the material from your tablet.

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  LOL Billy, I think I remember they did a assembly demo one time where brothers were talking about sports, jobs etc and they are encouraged by another brother to talk about "spiritual things"
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  No Reason For JWs To Go To The MIdweek Meeting (CLAM)

  by JW_Rogue in

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  everything that is done at the midweek meeting can now be done at home.

  the videos are online, the first talk is scripted, the bible highlights are scripted.

  you could get the same experience by just reading and watching the material from your tablet.

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  Don't forget all that wonderful 'encouragement' and 'upbuilding'..

  Honestly, it's very awkward making conversation with people you've known for years but don't really care about that much. I'm sure some feel the same way about me. LOL

  
  
  
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  No Reason For JWs To Go To The MIdweek Meeting (CLAM)

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  everything that is done at the midweek meeting can now be done at home.

  the videos are online, the first talk is scripted, the bible highlights are scripted.

  you could get the same experience by just reading and watching the material from your tablet.

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  Everything that is done at the midweek meeting can now be done at home. The videos are online, the first talk is scripted, the bible highlights are scripted. You could get the same experience by just reading and watching the material from your tablet. There is absolutely nothing to miss by not going to the midweek meeting.
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  Moments Of Clarity As A Born In JW

  by JW_Rogue in

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  -when i was in my early teens we were studying the revelation book for the second time.

  the first time i didn't understand much but the second time i remember that my family had quite a lengthy discussion about the lake of fire.

  they were trying make sense of the scripture and the jw interpretation.

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  -When I was in my early teens we were studying the Revelation book for the second time. The first time I didn't understand much but the second time I remember that my family had quite a lengthy discussion about the lake of fire. They were trying make sense of the scripture and the JW interpretation. My young mind just started thinking that it didn't really matter if we understood it or not, it was in the book so it was what we believed.

  -1995 The WT changes the view on what a generation is for the first time. My dad who isn't a JW but knew all about the generation teaching says "Oh, I guess they had to change that those anointed were getting pretty old." Part of me agreed with him that that was the real reason. However, I never said anything to anyone about that, instead I followed the rest of my family in thinking that my dad was just cynical and too lazy to be a JW. LOL

  - I don't remember the particular year but at the regional convention there was a talk with new light about who the Princes were of Isaiah. Well, after what was probably one the most boring talks ever the brother got to the point, the princes and chieftains were the Elders of the congregation. That they would have a special place in the Paradise as leaders of God's people. I remember thinking that this was a good way to motivate brothers to reach out to be Elders.

  - The WT article "Feeding The Many, Through The Hands Of The Few" comes out and again everyone is trying "make it make sense". I didn't really even try, I felt like the brothers were purposely trying to cut down the role of the anointed and raise themselves up above it. Sure, we all knew that the brothers in Bethel were the ones really in charge but why was there this need to make it so clear? Were they afraid that there would be divisions in the org? Also, this new light erased the previous idea that their were always honest hearted ones who God considered part of the slave class. That idea was appealing and seemed strange to change it.

  -Again, I forget the year but it was another RC. It was the last talk of the convention, we had been promised very exciting new light. The last talk arrives and it is about the book of Daniel and the feet of iron and clay. Without any real scriptural explanation the brother starts in on how we used to think the feet of clay would be a time when other weaker nations would grow in prominence. Now though it was adjusted to mean that we were already in the feet of clay. That the world powers had already been weakened by different factions within their own countries. As an attendant I looked around at people in the audience and noticed that unlike when I was growing up people weren't very enthusiastic about the new light. No one really even mentioned it, it seemed like it was changed for the sole purpose of making it seem that Armageddon was imminent.

  -2013 The article "Seven Dukes, Eight Shepherds" mostly the article was all over the place. The only thing that stood out to me was that now infamous quote and how they want Elders to obey any directive given and in turn the average publisher. Around the same time they released the drama "Walk By Faith, Not By Sight" which also drove home the message of listening to direction rather than using your own thinking. This combined with another fear mongering article complete with JWs huddled in basement really flipped the switch for me to start thinking about what I really was involved in.
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  "Bible Teach" book study--is it real?

  by AmyWatson916 in

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  jw's want to begin a study through their new "what does the bible really teach?

  " book.

  should a non-jw study with them just to point out the contradictions and muddled thinking in the book?

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  No, if you're not a JW then they won't listen to you anyway you would be wasting your time. If they suspect that you are looking at any apostate material they will write you off and stop listening to anything you have to say. JWs are instructed that they are to look for "right hearted ones." What this really means is that they are to look for people who want to believe and be taught, not people who want to debate or challenge doctrine.
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  Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  wasn't sure where to put this but .... .

  so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?

  the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.

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  I'm realizing that w exjws there's probably two schools of thought....
  a) People who think that the GB are in it for the $$
  b) People who think that the GB are delusional whackadoodles who think they're the bees knees.

  c) People who think the GB are manipulators but not for money, simply for power and control. There is no way to look at some of the content they have been releasing and not see that they are clearly and intentionally manipulating people's emotions. The whole GT bunker video series is not really about the GT at all, it is about modifying JWs thoughts and actions to be more in line with WT. I think they all know that most of what they say is rubbish. They may feel that the ends justify the means or that people will ultimately be happier as JWs. However, there is no way they believe these end time scenarios and prophecies that they use to keep people in line.