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  What's happening to the Seventh World Power?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  in the imagination of many christians (jws included) the biblical texts tell of each succeeding world power winning its position through the power of its armies, on the battlefield.

  even the yhwh/jesus combo is imagined as winning in an enormously destructive battle.. the knorr/franz nomination for the world power no.7 - the anglo/american alliance certainly gained and still maintains its hegemony via its military power.

  its battle fleets armed with the most destructive power in history patrol the world.

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  They will change the feet of clay to refer to a weaker coalition of nations that is dominating the world scene. However, the end will still be imminent, like always.
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  Not forseen by FF

  by Gorbatchov in

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  european press is quoting angela merkel today, who sees a break up between europe and the usa.. objection!

  this is not what we learned at the bible studies in the 70's!!!.

  fred franz is turning arround in his grave now 😂😂😂.

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  Empty threats
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  Told My Parents Yesterday That I Don't Want to Be a JW

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.

  after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.

  they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.

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  So the meaning of life is to maximize your own enjoyment for the few years of your existence?

  The meaning of life is to pursue whatever fulfills you as a person. Contentment and pleasure seeking are two different things, most would pursue the first over the latter. However, since life is meaningless you have the freedom to do whatever the hell you want.

  
  
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  Is there truth in religion

  by bola in

  1. watchtower
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  i am asking this questions due to the teachings, beliefs and practices of different religions..

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  If the fundamental premise behind religion is wrong, how could any of them contain a shred of truth? All religions (excluding non-theist ones) are founded on error. If I had concerned myself with the question of God's existence, rather than His nature, I could have saved myself a decade of fruitless research.

  True, but their are some words of wisdom or practices that can be derived from different religions.

  
  
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  Fatherless Boys

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt teaches that "fatherless boys" need special care and attention in the congregation.

  however, as brought out at the rc their definition of "fatherless boys" includes boys that have actual fathers who maybe very well qualified to teach and raise their sons.

  according to wt, if either of your parents aren't jws then you are a "fatherless boy.

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  The WT teaches that "fatherless boys" need special care and attention in the congregation. However, as brought out at the RC their definition of "fatherless boys" includes boys that have actual fathers who maybe very well qualified to teach and raise their sons. According to WT, if either of your parents aren't JWs then you are a "fatherless boy." It is the same as if they had abandoned you or passed away. Then they actively encourage someone who is totally unrelated to the child to step in and mentor him or her, taking the place of the unbelieving parent.
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  Told My Parents Yesterday That I Don't Want to Be a JW

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.

  after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.

  they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.

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  It is an interesting concept. If a person cannot find joy living day to day for a short period of time, why would they feel that living forever would have any more meaning? Eternal life on earth will just be doing more of the same of life now, but without any end to it.

  Good point, the real fact is that many people just have not accepted death as their eventual end. It is not the purpose of life they are concerned about it is their own mortality. The meaningless of life without God is actually good because it allows one more freedom to pursue what they want now, instead of "waiting on Jehovah" for magical solutions.

  
  
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  When is a JW considered "awake"...?

  by biblexaminer in

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  1) they begin question .

  2) they stop field service.

  3) they stop going to kingdumb hall.

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  You are awake when you are 100% sure that this isn't "the truth" and further that they are a controlling group which is damaging in many ways.
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  Do JWs Really Bother You?

  by minimus in

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  in reality my experience with the witnesses is that they really don't bother me or bother with me which suits me just fine....are you "bothered" by the witnesses at this point of your life?.

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  Depends on if you're in the group or had the misfortune of being born into it. If so, their nonsense can be quite bothersome.
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  "Taking the "Lead" vs. "Leader"

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt articles for the past 2 weeks were the typical every-3-months-or-so attempt at justifying the sovereignty of the jw popes, the governing body.. aside from the usual specious reasoning and ridiculous assertions, i noted this:.

  the articles went through great semantic pains to emphasize that, for the jws, jesus is "the leader", while the gb are merely "those taking the lead".. what, exactly, is the difference between a "leader" vs. "one who is taking the lead"?.

  in what other sphere of human experience is such semantic pretzel logic even close to rational?.

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  Simon, don't start writing for the WT, you know how they love their illustrations. LOL
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  "Taking the "Lead" vs. "Leader"

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt articles for the past 2 weeks were the typical every-3-months-or-so attempt at justifying the sovereignty of the jw popes, the governing body.. aside from the usual specious reasoning and ridiculous assertions, i noted this:.

  the articles went through great semantic pains to emphasize that, for the jws, jesus is "the leader", while the gb are merely "those taking the lead".. what, exactly, is the difference between a "leader" vs. "one who is taking the lead"?.

  in what other sphere of human experience is such semantic pretzel logic even close to rational?.

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  Everyone at my hall seemed to think it was awe inspiring that while we have "those taking the lead" we certainly don't have any leaders among except Jesus. Not sure how that makes any sense. It is literally the same exact word. SMH