so when they don't understand it - it MUST be demonized... right?
That is so true, like a medieval map everything outside dubland is labelled with, "Here there be dragons"
so it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.
the talk was solely about fb.
the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.
so when they don't understand it - it MUST be demonized... right?
That is so true, like a medieval map everything outside dubland is labelled with, "Here there be dragons"
my votes for worst kingdom melody lyrics: song 125- "jehovah is on my side" (try singing these lyrics without laughing like beavis and butthead): "i know that in this crucial hour my faith will yet be tested/ around me swarms the devil's crowd like bees that were molested/ but i can ever beat them off beneath divine protection/ on those who love to bear his name god sets his deep affection.
" or how about song 201- "rejoicing with god's nation" (grab your thesaurus for this one): "in a land so good and spacious/ free from strife and things vexatious/ look!
a happy crowd vivacious/ in god's service that is efficacious.
When I was still an active elder my wife and I were at house of friends and we made up lyrics to that song something like..."Out in the world they're all dying of Aids; But in the truth we have reason for cheer ...." At the very next meeting it was one of the scheduled songs. All four of us were almost in tears trying to contain giggles like naughty children
i'm having the whole heaven & hell discussion again w/ the wife...brought up matthew 25:41-46 as proof it exists,then the wife balked & looked to the friends for help.
the good news is that my wife now respects the fact that i won't read anything printed by the filthy slave, but the fight's still not fair.
can anyone give me more scriptures of the bible to use?
If we conclude there is a Creator who made this immense and beautiful universe, surely He knows what He is doing.
Hmm there's the problem right there!
You have tried to establish eternal conscious torment with debatable proof-texts.
How about the moral aspect of your position. How do you defend eternal punishment for temporal sin?
although a cult, jehovah's witnesses should not be underestimated as to their smarts.
sometimes, exiting jw's, due to indoctrination, feel a lot of guilt for leaving.
of course, the governing body wouldn't have it any other way.. upon leaving, many for the first time feel a freedom to express themselves, which is as it should be.
Good point TD. It also makes them incredibly frustrating argue with. Often their efforts are infantile.
thank you for joining this site.
your inner knowledge is simply fascinating.
please tell us more!!!!
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i'm having the whole heaven & hell discussion again w/ the wife...brought up matthew 25:41-46 as proof it exists,then the wife balked & looked to the friends for help.
the good news is that my wife now respects the fact that i won't read anything printed by the filthy slave, but the fight's still not fair.
can anyone give me more scriptures of the bible to use?
Nathan - beautiful sounds and images, thank you! I was listening to a lecture recently by Lawrence Krauss, he was saying that the molecules in our bodies all came originally from "stuff" from exploding stars. The atoms in your right hand probably came from a different star from those in your left, amazing! Back to heaven and hell?
before i washed the dishes this morning.............. .
i noticed a couple of well dressed men in dark suits passing by my window.
i jumped up to have a closer look and saw a whole hoard of witnesses in the street knocking on my neighbours doors.
That was brilliant well done! They will feel all persecuted now haha
i'm having the whole heaven & hell discussion again w/ the wife...brought up matthew 25:41-46 as proof it exists,then the wife balked & looked to the friends for help.
the good news is that my wife now respects the fact that i won't read anything printed by the filthy slave, but the fight's still not fair.
can anyone give me more scriptures of the bible to use?
Is Jesus a liar?
Maybe, or perhaps bible writers put words in his mouth that reflected their own perverted psyche when the gospels were written decades after the events.
Or maybe Jesus was deluded with the same fairy tales as his contemporaries.
Or maybe he is a sick bastard?
Who knows. Either way nobody who takes this stuff literally can "love" the monster who invented it.
"Thank you for not burning my ass in hell for all eternity god like you are going to do to all those billions of others. I love you sooooo much for saving me from you. You are so merciful and kind I want to praise you for ever, but i can't hear my own sycophantic voice for all the screaming"
Yeah right!
the watchtower uses sas software.. sas is very expensive, why would the watchtower spend money on it?.
the organization is theocratically managed so they don't need wordly software.. .
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I was thinking Special Air Service as well; I'm pretty sure they don't get free massages
This is a great example of somebody who understands the value of his employees.
i'm having the whole heaven & hell discussion again w/ the wife...brought up matthew 25:41-46 as proof it exists,then the wife balked & looked to the friends for help.
the good news is that my wife now respects the fact that i won't read anything printed by the filthy slave, but the fight's still not fair.
can anyone give me more scriptures of the bible to use?
Biblically, however, hell is a real place of conscious, eternal suffering
Then your god is a monster of greater proportions than all the human tyrants who have ever lived
Nobody could "love" such a fiend with anything even closely resembling any normal definition of love.
I think christians who actually believe in eternal torment are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome.