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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  Kate - I Copy-pasted the abstract of Soai's world-famous 1995 paper from the website of one of the most respected peer-reviewed science journals on earth.

  Is this group run by chemists or other people who don’t have scientific credentials? - Kate

  "Nature is the world's most highly cited interdisciplinary science journal ... publishing the finest peer-reviewed research in all fields of science and technology.." http://www.nature.com/nature/about/
  

  And you don't find it credible!
  

  Soai ..didn't write the paper to solve the puzzle of homochirality. - Kate
  

  "THE homochirality of natural amino acids and sugars remains a puzzle for theories of the chemical origin of life." - Kenso Soai

  
  
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  Doing ok thanks. Still getting insulted by Jesus' pals. That's how you know you are doing it right.
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  Hey Viv. Hope you are well.
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  Please keep it brief Kate.

  Soai solved the puzzle of homochirality in relation to the origin of life. F.C. Frank proposed a solution in 1954 and Soai demonstrated in the lab that the answer was correct in 1995.

  You started your thread by ignoring these inconvenient facts. When I pointed them out you denied them. What else is there to say?
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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  I will find time today to respond to your challenge Cofty and prove my chemistry is correct.

  Make sure you fully explain every technical term in your own words.

  Please tell me which of points 1-6 above you disagree with and why. (Bearing in mind it is a simplified summary try to avoid being pedantic)

  Here is the link the abstract of Soai's paper - copy-paste

  http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6559/abs/378767a0.html
  
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  Long Time Visitor New Member

  by LogansRun in

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  just wanted to say hello, i have been visiting this site for a very long time and i feel like i know so many of you already, now you can get to know me but for now i'm fading so i cant give my complete story.

  i'm single but have "hardcore" siblings in the religion, thankfully i do have family who never expressed interest in the jws.

  i really checked out years ago from to much mental abuse and no recognition for all that i gave to this organization.

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  cofty

  Welcome Logan's Run
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  Here is an example of linear growth such as you get with a reaction that uses a catalyst versus exponential growth that results from autocatalysis. (ignore the word goals on the vertical axis)

  
  
  
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  I'd follow it more easily if the thread flowed a bit better. - OzGirl

  Yes, unfortunately Kate is more concerned with point-scoring.

  Basically it can be summed up as follows...

  1 - We are largely made of protein molecules which in turn are made of amino acids

  2 - Amino acids come in two sorts that are like mirror images of each other. Left-handed and right-handed types won't fit together

  3 - All living things only use one sort.

  4 - Creationists think this is proof of Jesus

  5 - A Japanese scientist called Kenso Soai demonstrated back in 1995 that if you start with a mixture of both sorts you can naturally end up with just one sort.

  6 - The reason is that amino acids replicate by a process called homocatalysis. Amino acids help the formation of more new amino acids resulting in exponential growth. This means that if you start with very small differences in left and right types the difference gets amplified resulting in a mixture that is almost 100% of one sort.

  Therefore no magic.
  
  
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  Guide to Helping Other Break Free

  by LisaRose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have come up with a guide to helping others break free of the watchtower, based loosely on steve hassan's book, combatting cult mind control and incorporating experiences of other jwn posters who have been successful in helping their family leave the watchtower.

  i posted an earlier draft of this and got some great feedback.

  here is the final version with some additional information and incorporating many of your suggestions.

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  cofty

  Thank you, marking to read later.
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  532

  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  cofty

  Much better you're not shitting all over the chess board now. You're asking me how to play chess. - Kate

  Is there any need to behave like that? I'm not asking you for any information apart from an explanation of your own errors.