Posts by cofty

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Notifications

by Downtowner in

is there a setting that can send me e-mail or even a text message letting me know i have a new pm from someone, or perhaps someone commented on a post i wrote?

i get so busy in life and have several messaging apps to keep up with and sometimes it's weeks or even months before i remember to check my pm's here.. thanks,.

downtowner.

cofty

If the envelope is green you have a PM. If it isn't you don't.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

cofty

Just got in from work. What an extravaganza of wilful ignorance by creationists this turned out to be.

Where to start? Is it worth starting?

Have a cup of tea, maybe later, maybe not.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

cofty

it's rather a blueprint

It is NOTHING like a blueprint. That is one of the worse metaphors for DNA you could think of.

It'll take one helluva spontaneous mutation to come up with a single strand of DNA, let alone a nucleus full of them

If you want to know more about the evolution of DNA - at least what is known about that process so far - you will have to commit to some serious reading. Based on our previous conversations there is no point in me suggesting a reading list is there?

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

cofty

One could compare the DNA code to a language.

Yes we could COMPARE the two but that would just be a metaphor.

DNA is not a literal code neither is it information in the same sense as these words are. The articles I linked for you will explain in more detail.

Denail, denail, denail....

What is a denail?

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

cofty

If you have the intellectual honesty to face up to a scientific refutation of creationist's abuse of information theory here are a couple of links.

Talk Origins... (follow the links)

Rationalwiki...

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

cofty

6. All codes result from an intentional choice and agreement between sender and recipient

There is no recipient in DNA. It's all just electrons doing their thing.

In DNA, information is just a metaphor.

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I believe in Evolution and that God created life

by Crabby in

anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.

cofty

Vidqun - This is called a discussion forum. Discussion isn't the same thing as demanding somebody watch almost an hour of ill-informed pseudo-science.

If you think the video makes any compelling points then present them succinctly in your own words.

DNA is the most important evidence for evolution.

#1 Protein Functional Redundancy
Comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things.

#2 DNA Functional Redundancy
Comparison of the DNA that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy.

#3 ERVs
Endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins.

#4 Smelly Genes
Hundreds of broken genes that used to code for olfactory receptors in our ancestors are still found in our genome.

#5 Vitamin C
Why humans can no longer make their own vitamin C and what that tells us about our species' history.

#6 Human Chromosome 2
Our second biggest chromosome is made up of two of our ancestors' chromosomes stuck end-to-end.

#7 Human Egg Yolk Gene
Humans and our primate cousins have the genes for making vitellogenin and they are all broken in the same way.

#8 Jumping Genes
Bits of parasitic code called ALU elements prove our common ancestry with primates.

#9 Less Chewing More Thinking
A broken gene for a type of muscle fibre we no longer have tells a story about our evolutionary past.

#10 Non-Coding DNA
In common with many other species huge amounts of our genome originated as copying errors.

#26 Colour Vision...
How gene duplication - new "information" -and mutation equipped us with trichromatic vision.

#29 Use it or Lose it...
Fossil genes reveal the history of modern species.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

cofty

I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

cofty

A Ha that is an excellent book by Nick Lane.

He is actively working on origin of life energetics in his lab at University College London and has had funding for the last few years. His latest book "The Vital Question" lays out the development of his ideas since he wrote "Oxygen" in I think it was 2002

"Power, Sex, Suicide - Mitochondria and the Meaning of Life" is really excellent too but his latest book updates some of it.

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

cofty

that doesn't automatically mean all the answers have been explained

Are you familiar with the term "straw man fallacy"?

If it was good enough to bug Chuck it's good enough for me

Darwin lived 150 years ago. Most of the progress in the origin of life has happened in the past 2 decades.

Until we solve this issue it is not possible to make any absolute statement.

Yes it is possible to say absolutely beyond all reasonable doubt that every living thing evolved from a common ancestor over millions of years. That fact is not in any way dependent on an explanation of the origin of life.

To know what the biochemical charge was (yes cofty scientists absolutely use this term)

Scientists use a lot of terms but if you want to know something you have to ask the question in a way that makes sense. You can't just throw some random sciencey words and phrases around and pretend you have said something.

I'm all ears on how the origin of life started. Happy to listen to anything anyone has to say. But alas no one has said much,

So you want somebody to explain abiogenesis in one post do you? I have a series of almost 40 threads on the evidence for evolution and I haven't scratched the surface yet.

I offered to discuss the evidence with you. All I asked was that you take 2 or 3 minutes to list a few bullet points setting out what you understand about the topic so far. From that starting point I can help you without wasting time on basics that you already know.

I offered to recommend some excellent books that will describe the latest progress but you have ignored my offer. You clearly have no genuine interest.

I will start a new thread on origin of life in the near future.