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  How do we know JWs are wrong and how do we convince others JWs are wrong: logic versus persuasion

  by slimboyfat in

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  we like to think we are logical and have good reasons for for our beliefs.

  no more so than when it comes to our reasons for rejecting the truth claims of jws.

  we reject their version of history, such as the date of the fall of jerusalem, because it doesn't agree with the historical evidence.

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  cofty

  I ask you to consider if there may have been influences you were not aware of

  I have reflected many times on the most significant decision of my life. There were no other influences. It was about cold hard facts. It was not true therefore I left.
  
  
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  Holocaust Denier

  by Kenneson in

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  at the beginning of the week i watched a documentary on the libel.

  suit brought against penguin books and deborah lipstadt but lost by.

  holocaust denier david irving?

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  I never make personal attacks but on this one occasion I am going to make an exception.

  You are a fucking idiot.
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  How do we know JWs are wrong and how do we convince others JWs are wrong: logic versus persuasion

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we like to think we are logical and have good reasons for for our beliefs.

  no more so than when it comes to our reasons for rejecting the truth claims of jws.

  we reject their version of history, such as the date of the fall of jerusalem, because it doesn't agree with the historical evidence.

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  cofty

  One of the most important aspects of persuasion is social proof. We see other people leaving JWs and this persuades us that there are good reasons for leaving JWs.

  That had nothing to do with why I left. I didn't know any ex-JWs.

  It was 100% based on facts and evidence. I researched doctrines using only the bible and WT library including many of Russell's and Rutherford's books.

  Logical arguments only work with people are are already convinced.

  I was entirely convinced the WT was the Truth when I discovered a flaw in the doctrine. It was about facts and nothing else for me. I'm certain I'm not unique.
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  Holocaust Denier

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the beginning of the week i watched a documentary on the libel.

  suit brought against penguin books and deborah lipstadt but lost by.

  holocaust denier david irving?

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  Reflect on the degree of the conspiracy that would be required to make Irving's ravings credible.
  

  It would take thousands of people who were unknown to each other to relate the same experiences, containing countless verifiable details, consistently over seven decades.

  What possible motive could anybody have for accusing all those victims of lying? CJ - DId it not occur to you to investigate the evidence before publicly promoting the lies of this fool?
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  Holocaust Denier

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the beginning of the week i watched a documentary on the libel.

  suit brought against penguin books and deborah lipstadt but lost by.

  holocaust denier david irving?

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  cofty

  Why would anything that charlatan says be interesting?
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  cofty

  SBF has had more comebacks than Frank Sinatra
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  If you really want help from all that I urge you and orphan to pick up a bible and read through ...everybody should read the bible and with a very critical eye - Looter

  I read the bible many times. I object to slavery - therefore your god is beneath my contempt.
  
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  I started this as a bit of amusing satire about irrational creationists.
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  Rattigan if you are aware of even one single shred of scientific evidence for creationism please share it.

  By the way how are you defining "God"?
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  Is there even a remote possibility of getting back on topic?

  By the way the topic is how frustrating it is trying to hold a rational conversation with a creationist. Ha!