Page 2 and you still haven't defined "absolute truth".
The only claims for absolute truth I have ever heard have come from religion. Can you think of a secular example?
or do we give in to social constructivism?
to relativity?
or is there a way to be real and then to say whats real that everyone agrees to?.
Page 2 and you still haven't defined "absolute truth".
The only claims for absolute truth I have ever heard have come from religion. Can you think of a secular example?
i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
or do we give in to social constructivism?
to relativity?
or is there a way to be real and then to say whats real that everyone agrees to?.
dawkins only represents one side of this fascinating debate - I tend to favour the other side - the self organizing complexity side - Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby
Doesn't sound as if you have ever read Dawkins then. - Cofty
i'm always open to being proved wrong, cofty. where's your evidence - Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby
Self organising complexity is a major theme of all of Dawkins science books. From memory the chapter in "The Greatest Show on Earth" called "You did it yourself in nine months" is all about self organising complexity. It's literally all over his writing.
at the moment i dont beleive in anything.
im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.
but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.
Hiemere - I think you missed my point. It's hard to tell when you write such wordy replies.
I don't care for the label of atheist because it tells us absolutely nothing about a person except the trivial detail that they don't believe in the god of theism. So what? Why should anybody be defined by one thing they don't believe? There are lots of things I don't believe in but none of them come with a label.
I am FOR reason and science and rational thinking and an evidence-based worldview. Stalin was against all of those things. The fact that he also did not believe in god is as irrelevant as the fact he had a mustache. He was an ideologue. For you to even raise the name of Stalin in this context demonstrates a basic misunderstanding.
I am rational because of my worldview and that leads me to do good things. You are irrational by definition and yet despite that you also do good things. Well done. Now if you could just get over your superstitions!
or do we give in to social constructivism?
to relativity?
or is there a way to be real and then to say whats real that everyone agrees to?.
dawkins only represents one side of this fascinating debate - I tend to favour the other side - the self organizing complexity side
Doesn't sound as if you have ever read Dawkins then.
i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
Watch the videos Fink posted Vidqun.
You have been willingly duped.
at the moment i dont beleive in anything.
im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.
but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.
Both think they are enlightened and blame things: the Bible, religion, atheism, communism. - Hiemere
The communism of Stalin was an irrational ideology in just the same way that all religions are irrational ideologies.
Check out the history of genetic research under Stalin for example. In 1948, genetics was officially declared "a bourgeois pseudoscience", more than 3,000 mainstream biologists were sent to prison, fired, or executed and scientific research in the field of genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953.
You are making a false comparison. When you can point to a dystopian society run on the principles of secular humanism, inspired by thinkers like Thomas Hobbes, Rene Descartes, Francis Bacon, Baruch Spinoza, David Hume etc then you will have a point.
Atheism is a necessary but not a sufficient condition of building a better world. It is an inevitable corollary of being rational.
i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
If I wanted to study Hitler and the Nazis and their effect on the German people, I would ask a German, that were there, first. He would be able to tell it first hand
Check out accounts of catholic volunteers who were horrified at the total lack of compassion and basic nursing care in MTs houses of death.
I am talking about first hand accounts. She taught that human suffering was a blessing. She was a sadist!
In one documentary she complained that she needed more funds to complete her projects.
She was also a liar and a fraud.
i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
it's like wanting to study Hitler and the Nazis by reading American and English literature on the subject
Are you sure you wanted to make that comparison?
Are you suggesting the accounts of the holocaust are American and English lies?
If you think M.T. was a friend of the poor then you have been duped by the RC publicity machine. Don't be so gullible and check the facts. The dying of Calcutta passed away without even basic hygiene and pain control while millions of dollars of donations were spent on MTs empire.
Of course when she got sick she immediately rushed off to the best medical care the west could offer.
i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
However, no-one should question her motives for trying to do good and serving the poorest of the poor.
I don't just question her motives I condemn her as an odious old hag, fraudster and sadist.
She was no friend of the poor, she was the leader of a cult of poverty.
Read "The Missionary Position" by Christopher Hitchens.