Vidqun - If our genome so optimal why are there plants with genomes 50 times larger ours? Is a Japonica 50 times as complex as a human?
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113I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
The DNA, ..would follow the path of Universal Information.
Why would it? Apart from your superstitious need for that to be true.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
So also the DNA code in living cells needs a compiler and programmer.
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
Only somebody who has never read a single thing about Hox genes could say that. Thanks for illustrating my point.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
Vidqun I have explained to you numerous times how new "information" arises.
It is a common tactic of creationists to ignore evidential answers, wait a few weeks and then repeat their ill-informed objections as if they have never been answered.
The day you compared scientists to disciples of Dagon I lost interest in having a conversation with you.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
"Please tell me which books that present the scientific evidence FOR evolution you have studied in recent years?" - Cofty
Trying to make the other guy look like a Complete fool. Rejoicing when he is finally having to admit "none". - TheOldGrumpy
I would not criticise christianity unless I thoroughly understood the beliefs of christians. Christian theology is trivially easy to understand. Evolution is really complex. I have been studying it for 10 years and have only scratched the surface. Amusingly theists think it is intellectually honest to reject the fact of evolution despite never having read a single book on the subject - creationists books don't count!
Every "objection" I have ever heard from creationists is predicated on a misunderstanding of evolution. We have a classic example in this thread when RPT objected that he can't find any detailed evidence on how fish evolved from jellyfish. The answer is really simple - they didn't.
My challenge is perfectly reasonable. Rejecting evolution is always based on ignorance and/or religious superstition. (ignorance is not a pejorative word in this context)
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
One other thing. You asked about how genes can explain radical differences in body plans.
The answer is homeobox genes.
I don't think I have ever explained about the homeobox. Perhaps I will do that in the "Evolution is a Fact" series.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
Here you go..
Jellyfish are cnidarians. Humans and fish are chordata.
Another interesting division is between protostomia which includes cnidarians and deuterostomia which includes almost everything you might see at the zoo. At a very early stage of embryology a hollow ball of cells known as a gastrula invaginates. The open end becomes the mouth in protostomia but in the case of deuterostomia it becomes the anus.
All of life is ultimately divided into whether their mouth or anus forms first. At a basic level every anatomically complex living thing is a digestive tract with assorted appendages.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
I'm still struggling to find the facts, not the assumptions, regarding the question how jellyfish evolved into fish.
They didn't.
It's over 500 pages and I tried to find real answers using the book's index.
You should have asked. In fact if I remember rightly I already told you this weeks ago.
I mean, how, on a genetic level, do you turn a jellyfish... ...into these little fellows (early jawless fish)?
You don't. That's like trying to turn a duck into a crocodile.
All without fossilized transitional forms that show us "half" a brain, nerve, backbone, gill etc.along the path of trial and error?
You need to do some research on paleontology.
Evolution.. might not be the only or one true answer.
It is.
The gaps might be real and too big for evolution to surpass
What gaps?
Google Images "Jellyfish Clade". The answer is 0.33 seconds away.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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cofty
Please tell me which books that present the scientific evidence FOR evolution you have studied in recent years? - Cofty
I have asked that question of lots of people who reject evolution. So far not one answer. I think I see a pattern.