Perhaps my problem is that I have no imagination. - Vidqun
Your problem is a lack of knowledge combined with dogmatism.
Posts by cofty
-
113I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
Cofty, hydrothermal vents would be the last place on earth where life would originate - Vidqun
Actually it is an amazing environment that contains all the conditions and ingredients for life.
As I said before, it probably one of the most inhospitable places on the planet.
No not by a very long way. You are obviously not thinking about alkaline vents.
Secondly, through diffusion in sea water, free molecules would disperse, rather than aggregate.
No they wouldn't. Alkaline vents are made up of millions of tiny pores each a few microns lined with metallic catalysts.
How would life form under such conditions, if it cannot be kickstarted in “perfect” conditions in a lab?
There is no such thing as perfect conditions in the lab. Recreating the pressures, temperatures, PH gradients etc etc is a gigantic challenge. Progress is being made.
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
Whatever the case, I am sure there's a very good reason for it. I'll sleep on it and read up on it tomorrow. The botanists might be able to explain it.
They can't.
How about the protozoa known as Amoeba dubia? It has a genome more than 200 times bigger than a human!
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
Yet all around us we see magnificent structures—galaxies, cells, ecosystems, human beings—that have all somehow managed to assemble themselves
Dissipative systems. No more mysterious than the vortex of water flowing down your sink drain.
If the planet was covered with water to start off with, nowhere would molecules be able to concentrate to form life.
Alkaline hydrothermal vents. Perfect environment for life to emerge from geochemistry. I am sure we are on the brink of discovering bacterial life elsewhere. We might have discovered Methanogens on Mars already.
Life from life, etc.
Says who?
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
Vidqun - If our genome so optimal why are there plants with genomes 50 times larger ours? Is a Japonica 50 times as complex as a human?
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
The DNA, ..would follow the path of Universal Information.
Why would it? Apart from your superstitious need for that to be true.
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
So also the DNA code in living cells needs a compiler and programmer.
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
Only somebody who has never read a single thing about Hox genes could say that. Thanks for illustrating my point.
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
Vidqun I have explained to you numerous times how new "information" arises.
It is a common tactic of creationists to ignore evidential answers, wait a few weeks and then repeat their ill-informed objections as if they have never been answered.
The day you compared scientists to disciples of Dagon I lost interest in having a conversation with you.
-
113
I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
-
-
cofty
"Please tell me which books that present the scientific evidence FOR evolution you have studied in recent years?" - Cofty
Trying to make the other guy look like a Complete fool. Rejoicing when he is finally having to admit "none". - TheOldGrumpy
I would not criticise christianity unless I thoroughly understood the beliefs of christians. Christian theology is trivially easy to understand. Evolution is really complex. I have been studying it for 10 years and have only scratched the surface. Amusingly theists think it is intellectually honest to reject the fact of evolution despite never having read a single book on the subject - creationists books don't count!
Every "objection" I have ever heard from creationists is predicated on a misunderstanding of evolution. We have a classic example in this thread when RPT objected that he can't find any detailed evidence on how fish evolved from jellyfish. The answer is really simple - they didn't.
My challenge is perfectly reasonable. Rejecting evolution is always based on ignorance and/or religious superstition. (ignorance is not a pejorative word in this context)