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  Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?

  by Cassaruby in

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  "traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .

  .. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .

  from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.

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  God being the closest word to express that awe

  So god is just a metaphor for the awesome sense of wonder.

  Congratulations you're an atheist.
  
  
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  Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?

  by Cassaruby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .

  .. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .

  from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.

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  I define faith as an emotional belief in the mystery that is involved in experiencing life

  Yes there are many things about life the universe and everything that we can't fully understand. But what do you mean by having "an emotional belief" in mysteries?
  
  
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  Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?

  by Cassaruby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .

  .. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .

  from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.

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  outside of extremes faith serves man very well..

  How are you defining faith?
  
  
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  Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?

  by Cassaruby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .

  .. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .

  from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.

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  Does it even matter if something is true or false

  Yes
  

  When it comes to working with a book such as the Bible I wouldn't be able to work with any particular church without scriptural evidence

  Why do you think it is worthwhile organising your beliefs around a collection of books written by ignorant Iron Age nomads and warlords with the ethics of ISIS?
  
  
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  Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?

  by Cassaruby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .

  .. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .

  from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.

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  cofty

  the path of Atheism and agnosticism means figuring life out on your own.

  No it means basing your beliefs on objective evidence.

  Faith means pretending to know things for which there is insufficient evidence.
  
  
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  If it fails, boy will I have a red face!

  We both know that isn't true. Mormons have a long history of casually replacing one failed doctrine for an equally risible one and carrying on as if nothing happened.
  
  
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  Thank you Rebel
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  This is among the best arguments for God in my view. - SBF

  Then theism has got nothing but sophistry.

  Fuck it all - I have never had an exchange with you where you contributed anything useful to the conversation. Just insults and grandstanding.
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  Now I'm Convinced There Probably Is No God

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i made a visit to the museum in my city.

  the top floor is the planetarium, which has a connecting room with a huge dome ceiling where they project lessons and lectures and you have a 360 view of the night sky etc.. this particular lecture explained about our galaxy, and how it's only one of billions in the universe.

  and then we learned about each planet, some of their moons and the sun.

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  God is said not to be contingent. That's the best argument for God in my view - SBF

  That isn't an argument for god's existence. It's just a bit of sophistry.

  
  

  I like the scripture that says, "God is love". I like to take that literally. God is the goodness, kindness and humanity in people. - LaurenM

  So god is nothing but a metaphor for stuff we ought to approve of?
  
  
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  How do you categorise the Society - Cult or High control religion

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i have often seen many categorise the organisation in different ways.

  some say cult, some say high control religion.

  cult or high control religion?.

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  I don't think it's a binary distinction, every religion is on the cult spectrum. JWs are more than halfway along the spectrum towards the damaging end but not as far as other groups.

  IMO they are moving in the wrong direction.