sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
John_Mann - Please read the OP again. Most of it does not rest on the veracity of scripture.
The record of the Roman Catholic Church is one of the most compelling arguments against christianity but that is another topic.
I already talked with you about the problem of (natural) evil.
Interesting that I can't recall any of that conversation.Succinctly what was your most compelling point?
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
A book written by an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal deity would not sound exactly like it was written by ignorant Iron Age goat herders who knew absolutely nothing that every other Iron Age peasant knew as well.
It's a very simple common sense observation. One of many such simple observations in the OP.
I never obfuscate by the way. I just really dislike having to interact with you. I am convinced of your intellectual dishonesty and can't be bothered with your insincere nonsense, so sometimes I just ignore you.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
SBF - Feigning obtuse has become your preferred debating technique. If you can't be bothered to try harder I can't be bothered to respond.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
It has absolutely nothing to do with my preference.
I judge the god of christian theism - the god and father of Jesus - by his own words, and by the claims of his followers.
But you knew that already.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
The OP is not intended to be a knock-down argument against theism. I am making a very simple point....
The evidence for theism just doesn't fit the facts.
If god created the world then it would not be as it is. If he revealed himself in scripture it would not read as it does. If he answers the prayers of his children as he promised, then that would undeniably be the case.
The obfuscation and special pleading we have seen in this thread is testimony to the veracity of my argument.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
You are very concerned with problems of the material world.
Yes. So was Jesus. "Do unto others..."
We judge others as good or otherwise depending on how they treat real people in the material world.
I made a lot of points in my OP. So far you have addressed none of them.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
Please let's not derail the thread with pseudo-science.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
David - I suspect you are taking refuge in Deism.
There is a very clear distinction between deism and theism - Jewish or Christian.
My disbelief is a very well informed one that covers theism in all its guises.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
Vidqun - Please justify this statement...
"For those that notice such things, sun is not coming up where it use to. The earth is 25 degrees or more out of kilter."
