atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
Oh dear I didn't realise your were an evolution denier as well!
From your first venture into biology it is clear you have never read a single book on evolution or abiogenesis in your entire life.
No scholar, Christian or secular, denies the life, teachings, or extraordinary reports about Jesus
You could not be more wrong. There is naivety about your apologetics that makes me glad you came here. You will be my special project :)
so it was discovered in 2007 that there's a bacteria that's now eating plastic.
of course many years ago they found a bacteria that eats nylon.
also not to long again they discovered a fungi i believe that eats styrofoam.
More worryingly our overuse of antibiotics and antibacterial-everything is storing up a serious crisis. As Jeff Goldblum's character said in Jurassic Park "Life will find a way".
We have an advert on UK TV for a kitchen cleaner that kills 99% of all germs. Great! The toughest 1% is left to replicate with all the nutrition and no competition.
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
TWM - It is a long time since we had a theist on the forum so unwilling to reason on facts.
God told his people to murder babies in cold blood, to kidnap and rape thousands of virgins and to keep slaves as possessions.
These facts are inescapable.
I posted short extracts in the interest of brevity. I assumed you would take the time to check out the wider context. Clearly I over-rated your intellectual honesty.
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
TWM - When you get a minute don't forget to reply to my refutation of your OP...
I suggest you slow down a lot and reflect on the answers you are given. There are a lot of people here who have far more knowledge of these issues than you clearly have. With a bit of humility you could learn a lot. Your wordy responses invariably miss the point you pretend to be replying to.
You should also reply to Berengaria's post above. She shows irrefutably that your OP got off to a bad start. Atheism means "without god".
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
This thread will now proceed to many pages of Roman Catholic dogma. The words metaphysical and Sola scriptura will be repeated endlessly. Every request for evidence will be dismissed with an accusation of scientism.
I suggest we stick to the theological assumptions intended by the OP.
unfolding now - could be terrorist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/.
ISIS have claimed responsibility.
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
Sex slaves
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man... Divide the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community... The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was.. 32,000 women who had never slept with a man. - Num.31:18
When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. - Deut.21:11
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
Slavery
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another. - Lev.25:44
If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property. - Ex.21:20
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
What the atheist is fundamentally saying is that he has infinite knowledge of this universe to affirm that there exist no being with infinite knowledge. What the atheist is fundamentally saying is that he has infinite knowledge of this universe to affirm that there exist no being with infinite knowledge
The problem is you haven't defined the "God" that atheists reject.
Christians make a lot of specific claims about god. It is possible to show that these claims cannot be reconciled with each other or with reality. Therefore we can say with certainty that the god of Jesus does not exist.
If you retreat into a very vague form of deism - a common trick of christian apologists - then of course your very modest claims can never be refuted.
To illustrate - If I said unicorns exist, an a-unicornist could never prove me wrong without perfect knowledge of all the beings - visible and invisible - in the universe. If however I say that a large pink, visible, and noisy unicorn lives in my bathroom then the a-unicornist could prove their case beyond all reasonable doubt.
apart, of course, from the obvious example of believing the evidence-free assertion of the governing body to be god's representatives on earth.
not to side-step that issue, but i wonder if it might be interesting to relate that huge mistake to other things i've been wrong about and how they compare and contrast with the big one.
a couple of examples of things i was wrong about:.
All those astronauts, engineers, specialists, astronomers scientists, mathematicians, navy personnel etc and in all those decades not one of them broke ranks. Literally thousands of the most intelligent and independently minded people in modern history.
The depth of conspiracy to maintain the lie about our journey to the moon would be far far more unlikely than the simple verifiable fact that we really did go there.
