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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

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  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  I would be happy to do so on a different thread.

  This one is about your persistent accusations of so-called "scientism".
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  Jehovah's protecting his people - Korea

  by no-zombie in

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  with the chances of war breaking out on the korean peninsula rapidly rising, i wonder if jehovah will save his people in seoul if kim jong-un decides to nukes it?

  or will their deaths just be written off by the governing body's writing department as another case of "time and unforeseen occurrence"?.

  while you might think that i'm being flippant or trivial here, i'm being quite serious.

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  Nuclear war in Korea is not impossible or even unlikely.

  North Korea may be the biggest threat to world peace at this time. They must not be allowed to have viable nuclear weapons. How do you stop them?
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  "Ignorant" is not a pejorative word. Creationists are frequently totally ignorant of the facts they dismiss.

  Sometimes "bullshit" or "bollocks" is all that a so-called argument deserves.

  A lot comments on a thread are off-topic or unimportant to the discussion. Your speech about whether or not history is science is a prefect example. That is why I ignored it, not because I didn't have an answer. I never ignore questions or challenges that are relevant.

  Your favourite topic is semantics. I don't care about semantics so I tend to ignore you a lot.

  I intend to ignore you a lot more in future. I used to think you were sincere even though I disagreed with you a lot. There have been too many incidents when you so blatantly misrepresented my position just to score points that I no longer respect your honesty. You probably think I do the same. I don't. But let's agree to disagree. I find I enjoy the forum a lot more if I don't engage with you too often.

  And yet again you have attempted to derail a thread for your own amusement.

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  Back to the topic.
  John_mann you have thrown around the insult of "scientism" dozens of times in recent weeks. You use it in order to avoid having to provide evidence for your Roman Catholic dogma. I have told you as many times that I will genuinely consider any sort of evidence. The Ontological argument is a good example. I accept it as an attempt - a failed attempt - to provide evidence for god. I would be happy to discuss it on another thread.

  I don't find your three so-called miracles to be compelling evidence of anything apart from how superstitious Catholics are. But we could discuss those on another thread if you wish. They are subject to scrutiny. Whether or not you want to label the study of such events scientific or not makes no difference to me. But of course you will continue to tell me what I think and then accuse me of being confused when I correct you.

  I have no special desire for evidence that you consider scientific. I think my definition of science is broader than yours. So what? That is just semantics. So far you have shown no willingness to reason on this so I guess the conversation is over.

  You keep making evidence-free assertions about how humans have three souls and purgatory etc and every time anybody asks you how you can know these things are true you just carry on shouting "METAPHYSICS" and "SCIENTISM".

  I tried to communicate with you about this. You were not interested. So be it.
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  I haven't agreed to anything.

  You make extraordinary claims. You refuse to offer any evidence. I make no restrictions on what sort of evidence I will consider.

  My definition of science is of no consequence to this conversation.
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  Semantics are so tedious.

  I could not care less whether some field of knowledge should be labeled as science or not. Few things interest me less. Maybe my definition of science is broader than it ought to be? I don't care.

  The point is that it is entirely reasonable to demand evidence for the extraordinary claims of theists.

  It is irrelevant whether that evidence belongs in the realm of science or not. Theists insist god acts in the physical world. That is open to investigation. Dismissing such reasonable requests as "scientism" is a cop-out.
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  You are the only person on the forum whose questions I ignore. I find my life to happier by not engaging with you.
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  John_Mann uses the "scientism" insult for the explicit purpose of shutting down dialogue.
  
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  UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

  by Isambard Crater in

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  my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

  umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

  and i'm kind of disappointed..

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  I don't think the governing body care about memorial attendance as much as they care about the amount of money they are putting in the contribution box.
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  Does God really care about mankind?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  i am dying of cancer.

  yesterday i asked my full blown jw wife if she could snap her fingers and make me well would she do so?.

  she replied, "yes.

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  Sour Grapes I'm really sorry to hear about your illness. Do you have any treatment options left?

  If I had still been a believer when I was diagnosed I would have found it more difficult to accept the unfairness of it. Everything you have said in your OP is spot-on.
  
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  If There is no God is Murder Wrong? - Michael Shermer

  by cofty in

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  a very useful 8 minute talk on a topic that is raised frequently by believers in this forum.. ....

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  Cold Steel thank you for confirming the depravity of ethics by divine fiat.