i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.
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do you guys believe satan is real?
Almost 100% of posters in here once believed satan was real but had a change of heart.
My heart had nothing to do with it.
Almost 100% of posters here used to believe all sorts of superstitions. Most of us got over it. Join us, it's not as scary as you think.
i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.
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do you guys believe satan is real?
Having an imaginary friend is sad, having an imaginary enemy is tragic.
Satan doesn't appear in Hebrew mythology until after the Babylonian exile. He was appropriated from Persian folklore.
the other day my wife and i were in sonoma.
we were just walking around enjoying the pleasant afternoon in the quaint, old downtown area when i saw two jw women standing by their “witnessing cart.” .
normally, i just ignore them whenever i see jws standing by a cart, but i gotta admit it: this time it really bugged me because of the title on the cart: find family happiness.
I totally support your actions. They are out in public promoting a damaging cult, they deserve to be rebuked. If I have time I always have a conversation with them, if I don't I tell them very briefly what I think of their religion. If every ex-JW did the same doing the cart work would be a nightmare.
there are a number of things that don't make sense to me about your religion.
a. blood prohibitions: .
- plasma...when all components of plasma are acceptable to the society.
None of the examples given in the OP will send any soul to hell, but the rejection of the Holy Trinity, and Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, most certainly will do.
And yet you are incapable of describing the trinity simply and succinctly.
Your god demands we assent to an absurd idea that cannot be expressed without committing a logical fallacy, and if we can't force ourselves to pretend to get it he will torture us for eternity.
What and arsehole your god is.
i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.
perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.
watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .
I don't think it will be about a change in doctrine, that seems to be of very little importance to the modern GB.
Their rhetoric seems to hint at an organisational change. No doubt it will be motivated by financial concerns but sold to the gullible as 'simplification'. Racking up the selling of k/halls and combining congregations to a degree that really causes inconvenience would fit the pattern.
i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.
perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.
watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .
I agree they are preparing the ground for something that they know will be a hard sell.
it was back in mid nineties 93,94 or 95 before it became what it is today.
anyway they had a bunch of search engines and the first thing i typed in it was jehovah witness, then jesus christ, next came lsd, magic mushrooms, nude pictures.
i think in that relative order.. i remember reading a different story about jws in germany during the nazi era, not anything like the 74 yearbook's depiction.
Xanthippe - The evangelical church played no part in my working out the cult was wrong. First I did research, then I spent a year or more trying to resolve my questions with letters to the branch and Brooklyn, then I got Dfd and began associating with the local Baptist church.
All you need to work out that things like blood, eschatology and the Great Crowd are in error is WT publications and a lot of time and effort.
After I joined here I discovered that Alan F. had reached the same conclusions about the parousia for exactly the same reasons.
it was back in mid nineties 93,94 or 95 before it became what it is today.
anyway they had a bunch of search engines and the first thing i typed in it was jehovah witness, then jesus christ, next came lsd, magic mushrooms, nude pictures.
i think in that relative order.. i remember reading a different story about jws in germany during the nazi era, not anything like the 74 yearbook's depiction.
I never went near any internet information about the cult until long after I had left.
All you need is the bible and some determination.
this was a news article recently in an australian newspaper that caught my eye.. the premise was that to have a child is to inflict an extra human being onto the world and also, to inflict the world (with all its problems) onto the child.. there is a lot to say about this but from jw point of view, i have always believed it to be incredibly hypocritical that jw's have children in 'this system'.
all my life at the meeting i heard how little time we have left, how sick the world is, how i was probably going to be persecuted and end up in a jail cell for being a jw.
why would anyone want to become parents in this situation, particularly if they are confident there is only 'a short time left'?.
WT study article in the mid 80s called "Responsible Childbearing in the Time of the End". Basically the message was don't have kids. It was right around the time we started a family.
ETA - Sir82 already mentioned this article.
curious what the canadian take is on all this .
i also understand he compared islamic state terrorists to greek, vietnamese & italian migrants?
that one i haven't confirmed yet but sounds wacky if true.
hothead - be respectful or shut up.
Jacobi - I honestly have not got a clue what your point is in this thread. Maybe I'm missing something. Good night.
