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  Christ's sacrifice

  by dogisgod in

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  so, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.

  i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.

  no one believed it literally.

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  cofty

  I hold A & E were real as take any breeding line back you must come to original pair

  Nope.
  
  
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  Christ's sacrifice

  by dogisgod in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.

  i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.

  no one believed it literally.

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  cofty

  I think the ransom sacrifice doctrine is central to most Christian denominations

  Not in anything like the same way as JW doctrine. In fact if you say 'Jesus' ransom' to most xtians they will wonder what you are talking about.

  If you ask any xtian 'why did Jesus have to die?' the name of Adam will not be part of the answer.

  It is this doctrine that most clearly separates xtians from JWs.
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  Christ's sacrifice

  by dogisgod in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.

  i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.

  no one believed it literally.

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  cofty

  Christians do not understand Jesus' death in the same way as JWs.

  Put simply, JWs believe that Jesus died for Adam's sin; xtians believe he died for their own sins.

  The Gospel Contrasted With the Watchtower Doctrine of the Ransom...
  
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  Armageddon started...

  by mikeflood in

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  just joking i really don't think so...but the situation in syria is pretty worrisome...just hearing the news that france and great britain are attacking with cruise missiles in 72 hours.

  i mean assad is not gonna gasify his adversaries when he almost won the civil war.

  trump too suspended a very important trip to the latinoamerican presidents summit in peru, just to 'oversee the american response to syria.

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  cofty

  Assad is not gonna gasify his adversaries when he almost won the civil war

  Except he just did.

  It's easy to criticise western leader's actions and inactions. The USA, the UK and their allies are damned if they intervene and damned if they don't. Anybody who tries to understand the complex web of evil bastards and conflicting interests in the Middle East might hesitate to rush to judgement.
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  Need blood? Save your life, here's why.

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  so here's the point regarding blood transfusions.

  notice jesus asks the pharisees if it was lawful on the sabbath to save a life.

  so, can you break god's law to save your life if it came to that?

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  cofty

  Notice Jesus asks the Pharisees if it was lawful on the Sabbath to save a life. So, can you break God's law to save your life if it came to that?

  Playing Devil's Advocate I disagree. Jesus objected to the way the Pharisees interpreted the law regarding the sabbath but he never argued that it was okay to break the law. He observed the Law meticulously and taught this followers to be even more observant than the Pharisees.

  His argument was not that it was okay to break the sabbath by healing or saving a life but that doing these things was not breaking the Law.

  Similarly the key point about blood transfusions is not that it is okay to break god's law to save your life but that blood transfusions are not against any law...
  
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  What is CT Russell's motive?

  by sinboi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

  did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

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  cofty

  To put it concisely, sell literature and draw attention to himself - Fink

  All of the available evidence suggests otherwise.

  Russell was turned off from religion until he was later attracted by the Adventist movement and became convinced that the problem was not the bible but the way it was preached by mainstream christianity. His motive was to be part of a restoration of 'true doctrine' and to promote an apocalyptic message.

  At this stage he rejected all attempts to put a date on the parousia. He invested heavily using his own money and resisted appeals by his readers to form a new church or organisation. He taught that Christ's 'sheep' were to be found in every church.

  I agree with redpilltwice that he died a very different person from the one that began his religious quest.
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  Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  below i link the article.

  i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

  such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

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  cofty

  You are correct; Cofty saying it is true doesn't make it true. It's all the evidence that makes it true.

  Yep. Like the evidence contained in these forty threads...
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  Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  below i link the article.

  i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

  such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

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  cofty

  I have a question Cofty, what does this statement from Dr. Paula Kover who studies genetics and evolution mean to you, "It is important to make it clear that evolution is not a theory about the origin of life. It is a theory to explain how species change over time."? - Bad Wolf

  This statement by Dr Kover is exactly correct.

  The article in your OP has nothing to do with abiogenesis. It asserts that humans are fundamentally different from other species on planet earth and therefore must have evolved elsewhere and been brought here by aliens.

  Please try to at least understand bullshit before you post it.
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  Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  below i link the article.

  i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

  such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

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  cofty

  according to this video we start out as fish, then a crocodile, then a rat, then a spider monkey, then a chimpanzee, then a human.

  Then the video was either compiled by an imbecile or - more likely - you are talking crap again.

  no evidence exists to prove any of the possibilities beyond a shadow of a doubt

  You can keep saying that but it doesn't make it true. Humans evolved on earth from non-human ancestors over millions of years. This much we know beyond a shadow of doubt. Try reading some actual science books instead of wallowing in some of the dumbest cesspools in the internet.
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  Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. social
  2. current

  below i link the article.

  i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

  such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

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  cofty

  I don't have a firm belief on what or where we came from - Bad Wolf

  Neither do I. Beliefs have no place in science. Humans evolved from non-human (not the same thing as ET) ancestors on planet earth over millions of years. We have the fossils and the DNA evidence to prove it.