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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

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  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  cofty

  You quoted the dead carpenter's words as your authority - have the balls to own what you said.

  let us pity them the fate that Jesus warned of in the parable of Lazarus, and try to save them from the consequences of their avarice - SRM
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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  cofty

  I just think we should help them out, right up to the point where we would become equally disadvantaged, if we gave any more

  No you don't 'just think' anything. You assert in the name of god almighty that rich people who don't follow your edicts will burn in Hell for eternity.

  Stop hiding your hatred behind phoney politeness.
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  JEHOVAH - The biggest racist in history!?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many people like to boast about “jehovah being loving and impartial toward all”.

  there are even scriptures that say words to that effect.. however, if we look at just his actual conduct and actions , and not accept the words supposedly written by his apologetic “bible writers”, the facts tell us something else!.

  firstly, he chose one special nation and race of people.

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  cofty

  Thank you Earnest. Good catch.
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  Did You Ever Luke ANY Songs From The “Songbook “?

  by minimus in

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  i went on line looking for old jw songs and some of them were pretty good and some were just awful!.

  did you ever like any of those songs?

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  cofty

  Yep thanks that was it. Got it in my head now!
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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  cofty

  If individuals get wealthy due to god's providence then those dying of hunger must also put the blame on divine providence, which makes your god a moral monster.

  Why should humans be held responsible for clearing up his mess?

  That way, we develop the necessary virtues, which He can reward

  So the starving masses are moral commodities that exist so that wealthy xtians can get rewards.
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  Did You Ever Luke ANY Songs From The “Songbook “?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went on line looking for old jw songs and some of them were pretty good and some were just awful!.

  did you ever like any of those songs?

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  cofty

  What was the song that started like a dirge and then the second half of each verse was suddenly all upbeat like a bad Disney tune?
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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  cofty

  God will not interfere with our freedom to believe, or disbelieve

  That is a hackneyed excuse. Evidence does not compel anybody to submit.

  You're basing your entire premise on the assumption that god will torment the rich who don't give away their wealth and yet you confess there is no evidence he even exists.

  for those of the rich who cannot bring themselves to part with their money, let us pity them the fate that Jesus warned of in the parable of Lazarus

  Why should anybody take you seriously?
  
  
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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  cofty

  It is a religious discussion forum but it isn't an echo chamber. You make assertions you should expect to be asked to defend them.

  You asserted that rich people who don't give away their wealth will spend eternity in Hell.

  That is sick.

  You asserted that people get wealthy, not by their own hard work or skill, but by divine providence.

  That is absurd.
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  Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

  by SecondRateMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

  apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

  luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

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  cofty

  all your wealth, however derived, is down to God's providence

  First provide some evidence that god exists then we can talk about his favouritism.
  
  
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  JEHOVAH - The biggest racist in history!?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many people like to boast about “jehovah being loving and impartial toward all”.

  there are even scriptures that say words to that effect.. however, if we look at just his actual conduct and actions , and not accept the words supposedly written by his apologetic “bible writers”, the facts tell us something else!.

  firstly, he chose one special nation and race of people.

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  cofty

  Earnest - I can't work out if Russell was quoting approvingly of that article or not?

  If he was then the charge of racism doesn't seem unfair does it? Or was Russell implying that the missions of Christendom were failing to make real changes in their African diciples?