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  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  In the new testament we see a gradual process of turning Jesus the man into "god the son".

  Paul - resurrection

  Mark - baptism

  Matthew - conception/birth

  John - pre-human

  Early christians found themselves worshipping Jesus in practice but were embarrassed by what amounted to polytheism. The doctrine of the trinity with its convoluted waffle about substance and essence, and the endless arguments about terms like, ousia, homoousios, hypostasis etc is risible.

  It is impossible to state the trinity simply in your own words without committing a heresy. Go ahead and try it.
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  37

  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  If people exist in three parts spirit, soul and body; and if we are created in his image, why can't God have three manifestations of the same essence? - Sea Breeze

  And in one sentence you have committed two heresies — partialism and modalism.

  It's as if trinitarians don't understand the trinity. Who would have thought it?
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  Is it OK to teach your children that Homosexuality is wrong?

  by Thomasdam in

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  2. family

  i know a few family's who have left the cult but send their kids to a religious school because of the public schools teaching many times that homosexuality is ok. the bible is clear that its a sin.

  there is no just love each other and its all ok. i don't believe in the bible or any religion.

  i have a niece who came out as gay and i told her i don't care.

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  cofty

  Xant - You demolished your own argument.
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  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  Your intellectual dishonesty is self-evident.
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  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  So still no effort to explain the trinity in your own words then.

  I have been asking for years!
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  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  It's not a committee, it's One God IN three persons

  So is Jesus one third of god?

  why speak out against someone in whom you don't believe exists?

  I'm not. I'm criticising a post-biblical, self-contradictory dogma.
  
  
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  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  So it is deity by committee then.

  If you can't explain it simply in your own words without resorting to archaic words like 'godhead' then it is nothing but sophistry.

  If you have to appeal to the Johanine Comma then you are clearly in difficulty.
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  Who is the Saviour?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is for those who are interested in bible study.. the jehovah's witnesses claim that only the father is god, and thus teach he was the saviour in the old testament.

  the bible teaches that god says "there is no saviour beside me".

  therefore how is it, that the lord jesus christ is called the saviour of the world?.

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  cofty

  Jesus and the Father are not the same person, both unique, but the are the same God

  So is your god a committee?
  
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  BREXIT

  by ScottyRex in

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  2. friends

  as the clock ticks down, i just wish our politicians would get on with it.

  i think teresa may has had a bitch of a job in the last couple of years and wish her well.

  as a once labour supporter i could not under any circumstance support them again under jeremy corbyn and diane abbot.. i voted out, and do still have hope that the uk will prosper free of europe.

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  cofty

  I thought so.

  Are you even aware of your mental gymnastics?

  Brexit was the democratic decision. The government made a promise - 'This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.'

  The only decision parliament have to make is how to implement Brexit.

  The EU is a bureaucratic monster. It is the least accountable, least democratic, greediest, power-grabbing, bullying, self-serving organisation since FIFA. We are leaving. Good riddance to the EU.
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  BREXIT

  by ScottyRex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as the clock ticks down, i just wish our politicians would get on with it.

  i think teresa may has had a bitch of a job in the last couple of years and wish her well.

  as a once labour supporter i could not under any circumstance support them again under jeremy corbyn and diane abbot.. i voted out, and do still have hope that the uk will prosper free of europe.

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  cofty

  The government spent £9 million sending every household in the UK a copy of a booklet with the pithy title, 'Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK.' here...

  On page 14 it said, 'This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.'