Posts by cofty

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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cofty

However you feel about Watchtower in the past, isn’t it better if they cause less harm in future? - SBF

There can be no honourable way forward for the cult until they admit to, apologise for, and make recompense for the damage they have done in their history. Just for a start...

Countless children raped and abused as a result of policies wilfully designed to protect pedophiles
Thousands of families destroyed by their shunning policies - in many cases leading to mental health issues and suicides
Millions of lives damaged by ridiculous apocalyptic prognostications

Having done that they would have to change so many doctrines, so as to prevent further harm, there would be very little left.

Some organisations do not deserve the opportunity to reinvent themselves. It would be far better if the cult just went out of existence.

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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cofty

No religion is all good or bad ... I like this book about good and bad religion ...Spoiler: the book argues that “good” religions promote education, connections between people rather than barriers, openness to new ideas, empathy for others, among other characteristics - SBF

I actually posted a couple of threads about this topic two years ago.

Was/Is Religion Useful Even if it isn't True?

Dawkins v Haidt on Evolutionary Advantage of Religion

In contrast with Dawkins, Jonathan Haidt has interesting things to say about this.

Sometimes I get the impression you wouldn’t like JWs to become better!

You're right I don't favour that outcome. I think that the cult is so thoroughly rotten it would be better if it continued to move towards ever more extreme positions until it becomes as ridiculous as Westboro. I want to see it destroyed by its own cruelty.

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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cofty

If you were to reform all the harmful teachings and practices of the WT there would be nothing left.

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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cofty

Well done SBF on finding an insignificant little apocalyptic cult that is the exception that proves the rule.

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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cofty

Okay, just for the sake of focussing on my main point let's concede you are right about kids not putting lives on hold.

All apocalyptic religions (including SDA and mainstream evangelicals) are poison.

~~Apart from causing young people to put their lives on hold~~ it teaches them that millions of non-favoured humans will be obliterated by their god any moment.

That is the most damaging aspect of religion and raising children in those groups is mental abuse.

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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

by nicolaou in

another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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cofty

All apocalyptic religions (including SDA and mainstream evangelicals) are poison.

Apart from causing young people to put their lives on hold it teaches them that millions of non-favoured humans will be obliterated by their god any moment.

That is the most damaging aspect of religion and raising children in those groups is mental abuse.

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irrefutable proof of the great apostasy that corrupted the catholic church

by TTWSYF in

when the emperor constantine legalized christianity in the roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become.

many people here know that to be a fact.

it's a common sense theory, right?.

cofty

Thoroughly corrupt den of pedophiles.

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XJW Activsm

by oppostate in

have you ever done xjw activism?.

do you find it rewarding?.

do you feel it has an effect?.

cofty

I often speak to JWs at literature trolleys. I've had a few very worthwhile conversations.

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According to the Old Testament aren`t YHWH God and the then Nation of Israel guilty of War crimes by today`s standards? ?

by smiddy3 in

just going by memory here with regard to the "old testament' when god promised the land he chose for the jews ,flowing with milk and honey ?.

their is no record in the bible of god ever giving an option to all the nations that already lived their to move on and he would compensate them at a new destination.?.

apparently without warning he just charged up the israelite`s for war with these nations to evict them from this territory that they had resided in for who knows how long.. not only that ,they apparently spared no one in their conquests killing man,woman and even dashing children to pieces ,and not feeling sorry for anyone.. don`t people think that this is a bit barbaric ?.

cofty

The moral monster of the Old Testament is the 'God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ'.

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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get away with lying about the scripture?

by Capitanul in

they can edit their own versions to conform to their doctrines but what's stopping people to hand flyers or glue posters with the actual quotes in contradiction to their statements?.

examples:.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-the-holy-spirit/ - http://archive.is/778ch .

cofty

Every one of your proof-texts can easily be countered by other proof-texts and by putting a different 'spin' on the verses in question.

For example 'eternal punishment' can be understood to mean annihilation with no hope of resurrection - the judgement is 'eternal'.

Reasoning with a JW takes far more insight an subtlety. Trading verses is pointless. Most of their beliefs can be supported by bible translations other than their own.

Welcome to the forum.