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  D-Day, not a single JW gave ultimate sacrifice while 9,000 Americans did just that

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  2. beliefs

  as the major news outlets today published tributes to the 9,000 americans who landed, and were killed, on the beaches of normandy in the largest seaborne invasion in history -- u.s. jws can sit back in their kingdom hall seats and home easy chairs, proud (and ignorant) of the facts that no jw ever killed a nazi in france's occupation.. today, most americans can proudly continue to speak english instead of german, or japanese -- partly because of those brave americans, not a single jw among them.. thank you to your grandfathers, great uncles, and other heroic men who never lived out the potential and promised of a fulfilling life..

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  cofty

  Pacifism is morally indefensible.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  The Watchtower is beyond the pale. The only way it will cease to do harm is for it to cease to exist.

  You don't believe there is any such thing as truth or falsehood or even a simple fact so it's hard for you to grasp that not everything is relatively okay.

  Try thinking about the KKK. Should it be reformed or does its long history of hate, racism and murder mean that nothing short of its total demise would be a morally defensible outcome?

  Right-wrong-true-false, I know these are difficult concepts for you.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  However you feel about Watchtower in the past, isn’t it better if they cause less harm in future? - SBF

  There can be no honourable way forward for the cult until they admit to, apologise for, and make recompense for the damage they have done in their history. Just for a start...

  • Countless children raped and abused as a result of policies wilfully designed to protect pedophiles
  • Thousands of families destroyed by their shunning policies - in many cases leading to mental health issues and suicides
  • Millions of lives damaged by ridiculous apocalyptic prognostications

  Having done that they would have to change so many doctrines, so as to prevent further harm, there would be very little left.

  Some organisations do not deserve the opportunity to reinvent themselves. It would be far better if the cult just went out of existence.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  No religion is all good or bad ... I like this book about good and bad religion ...Spoiler: the book argues that “good” religions promote education, connections between people rather than barriers, openness to new ideas, empathy for others, among other characteristics - SBF

  I actually posted a couple of threads about this topic two years ago.

  Was/Is Religion Useful Even if it isn't True?

  Dawkins v Haidt on Evolutionary Advantage of Religion
  

  In contrast with Dawkins, Jonathan Haidt has interesting things to say about this.

  Sometimes I get the impression you wouldn’t like JWs to become better!

  You're right I don't favour that outcome. I think that the cult is so thoroughly rotten it would be better if it continued to move towards ever more extreme positions until it becomes as ridiculous as Westboro. I want to see it destroyed by its own cruelty.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  If you were to reform all the harmful teachings and practices of the WT there would be nothing left.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  Well done SBF on finding an insignificant little apocalyptic cult that is the exception that proves the rule.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  Okay, just for the sake of focussing on my main point let's concede you are right about kids not putting lives on hold.

  All apocalyptic religions (including SDA and mainstream evangelicals) are poison.

  Apart from causing young people to put their lives on hold it teaches them that millions of non-favoured humans will be obliterated by their god any moment.

  That is the most damaging aspect of religion and raising children in those groups is mental abuse.
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  All apocalyptic religions (including SDA and mainstream evangelicals) are poison.

  Apart from causing young people to put their lives on hold it teaches them that millions of non-favoured humans will be obliterated by their god any moment.

  That is the most damaging aspect of religion and raising children in those groups is mental abuse.
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  irrefutable proof of the great apostasy that corrupted the catholic church

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when the emperor constantine legalized christianity in the roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become.

  many people here know that to be a fact.

  it's a common sense theory, right?.

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  Thoroughly corrupt den of pedophiles.
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  XJW Activsm

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have you ever done xjw activism?.

  do you find it rewarding?.

  do you feel it has an effect?.

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  I often speak to JWs at literature trolleys. I've had a few very worthwhile conversations.