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The connection between Iraq and 9/11 was tenuous, and I'm being extremely generous there - Jehal
There was NO connection. I think we all agree on that.
I don't believe a word they say about Russia Russia Russia
Then you should read some books by neutral journalists who know the Russian regime intimately. The best analogy for Putin's regime is The Godfather.
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Jehal - I already said the UK has been America's greatest ally for many decades.
Europe has a great deal to be grateful to the USA for but don't pretend the USA (eventually) entered WWI and WWII for anything other than reasons of self-interest (Lusitania; Pearl Harbor)
There is no comparison between those events and the crisis that will now be triggered by President Trump's actions. Sometimes your best friend needs to tell you when you are making a mistake.
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Rub - First it's not England it's the United Kingdom or UK if you prefer.
The UK has been the USA's greatest ally, we have fought and died beside American soldiers all over the world - even when your President started a war in Iraq for tenuous reasons.
Now your latest Commander in Chief decided on a whim to assassinate the most beloved man in Iran - even people who were out protesting against him a few weeks ago in fear of their lives are now reportedly out screaming 'death to America'. President Trump didn't even have the decency to give Prime Minister Johnson a heads-up. And you think the solution is for America to walk away and let 'England' deal with the aftermath.
You broke it - you own it.
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I've read an awful lot of authoritative books on the modern history of the Middle East Redvip.
Saudi did not do 9/11.
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We invaded Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia where the hijackers came from - Was
Will this canard never die?
Bin Laden and some of his cronies were Saudi but, despite his family's long relationship with the House of Saud, he was disefranched by the regime long before 9/11.
Al qaeda was primarily motivated by their contempt for the Saudi state. Saudi did not facilitate 9/11. I can think of many reasons to criticise Saudi Arabia but 9/11 is not one of them.
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Rub - Are you proposing that all western powers leave the Middle East to its own devices?
How long would it be before Israel was attacked?
Do like having fuel for your car and for the wagons that bring food to your local store?
i'm going to be the first and throw this out there for others but, from careful study of the scriptures i've found a loophole that even adam who was perfect at the time missed!
i'm sure everyone has heard the conundrum about ,"can god create a rock he can't lift?
" and if he can't create one he can't lift, then god cannot do everything" well that doesn't really matter since we know jehovah says himself he cannot lie right?
There is no Satan in Genesis. In fact there is no Satan pre-exile. The Jews adopted dualism from the Zoroastrian religion during their time in Babylon.
In Genesis it is just a talking serpent with legs.
(Could you turn off the bold font and use more paragraphs please?)
i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?
', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.
y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.
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I really don't buy the line that feeding the 'military industry' is a motive for war. I think the motives are far more idiosyncratic and ad hoc.
i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?
', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.
y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.
Miles Davis - 'Flamenco Sketches' (alternative version) on Kind of Blue.
Play it in the dark. The horn 10 seconds in will blow your mind. I listened to it late one night in a hospital bed with ear buds. Changed my world.
