I see God as liberator not a vengeful, threatening and slavish God
Is this the god who proscribed infanticide, rape and slavery?
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I see God as liberator not a vengeful, threatening and slavish God
Is this the god who proscribed infanticide, rape and slavery?
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i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
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So many demonstrably false assertions in one post.
The concept of objective evidence is an alien concept to many believers. Your mind is in a self-imposed prison GB.
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always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you - Godbeliever
And yet you make no defense.
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GodBeliever - I have read Russell's writings. How on earth can any rational person with the vantage point of 2020 still find his ramblings interesting never mind significant?
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Waton - I think that is an important point that is easily missed. Whatever we might think about any wisdom attributed to Jesus of the gospels he never actually said a single word that could not have been known by anybody living in his time and place.
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Hello GodBeliever welcome to the forum.
It is a scientific fact that the universe is 13.4 billions years old and that life arose on earth around 3.5 billion years ago. Humans have been around for at least 200,000 years.
These are not things we can sensibly have our own opinion about; they are certain facts. You need to start working on a theology that takes account of reality.
look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.
the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.
now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.
Less policing = more crime which leads to businesses leaving the area which leads to more deprivation and even more crime. The way to break to spiral is lots more policing. The police have to be the biggest, strongest gang in the neighbourhood with the best resources, the full support of politicians and a zero-tolerance attitude.
Of course Andrew Cuomo and Bill de Blasio think the exact opposite and therefore NY is doomed to a generation of decline.
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That' a very good point Steph.
The gospel writers whose works were later attributed to Matthew and Luke did seem to believe in a literal genealogy from Adam to Jesus.
The Watchtower have tied themselves to a literal creation account through their legalistic ransom doctrine. There is no way out for them that I can see.
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Hi Parker welcome to the forum.
Don't worry too much about offending others by questioning religious dogma. Facts don't require our consent.
Humans evolved from non-human ancestors over millions of years. We are evolved apes not fallen humans. This much is a fact as certain as anything that science has established to be true. Religion - if it wants to be taken seriously by intelligent people - needs to respect reality. The vast majority of religions have found ways to accommodate evolution. It is mostly Muslims, fundy xtians, JWs and many ex-JWs who still struggle with it,.
now today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
They have painted themselves into a corner with their legalistic interpretation of the ransom doctrine - no Adam = no ransom. So they are stuck defending the indefensible.
We did not 'fall' from perfection we evolved from apes.