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  Zoroaster spoke thus

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following is from: cosmos, chaos and the world to come (pp.

  222-224), norman cohn.

  yale university press.

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  OThank you Phizzy. This is fascinating.

  Christianity is derived from an apocalyptic sect of Judaism. If I understand Doug correctly - and Phizzys post - dualism was a product of the Exile. Did the concept of a Messiah even exist pre-Exile, other than in the sense of anointing a king? The belief in a saviour and in an end-time showdown between good and evil seems alien to the OT before the influence of Zoroastrianism.

  Sorry Doug I have been slow on the uptake.

  ETA - I hope I haven't broken forum guidelines by failing to mention Trump I'm this post.
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  Remind re: The "Cult" Label

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  if you accuse people of being stuck in jw mindset or "cult-like" mentality simply because someone has a different view of politics than you, you'll be deleted.. it's insulting and a lazy substitute for having any real argument for a proper debate.. what next ... "you smell" ?.

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  Wow that takes me back JP!

  I liked New Chapter. She was a formidable debator.
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  Were JWs Right That There Would Be A Time When Governments Would Go After All Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  they have predicted this for years.

  religions of the world would become attacked by the governments.

  the only difference is when they go after jehovah’s witnesses, then jehovah god will step in and destroy the governments..

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  coffy IMO there are no good Muslims - Mickbobcat

  You are a fascist. You approve of millions of innocents being locked up in concentration camps. I can't decide whether you are morally deficient or just astonishingly ignorant.

  Either way my life is less enjoyable for interacting with you. I hope one day you either grow up or educate yourself.
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  Were JWs Right That There Would Be A Time When Governments Would Go After All Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they have predicted this for years.

  religions of the world would become attacked by the governments.

  the only difference is when they go after jehovah’s witnesses, then jehovah god will step in and destroy the governments..

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  cofty

  Mickbobcat if you support the Chinese government sending millions of Uighur Muslims to concentration camps then you are literally a fascist.

  Shame on you. Go read a history book and learn about how tyranny starts and where it ends.
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  Anthony Morris wants former Jehovah's Witnesses DEAD

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a disgusting new video, anthony morris iii talks about apostates, and brings to mind his 'hot dog' talk all over again as he anticipates the demise of ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  i don't know if you're familiar with maggots, but when you see a whole bunch of them it's not a pleasant sight.. .

  what a fitting picture of the final end of all of god's enemies.

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  cofty

  It is a sure sign of insecurity. They know they are facing an existential crisis and they need someone to blame. The passionate hatred is disconcerting.
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  Zoroaster spoke thus

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following is from: cosmos, chaos and the world to come (pp.

  222-224), norman cohn.

  yale university press.

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  cofty

  The "Judaism" of the "Old Testament" is not the Judaism of Jesus and his contemporaries

  This is such an important insight. We tend to compress history. It's similar to the way we in the UK talk about the 'Roman period' in Britain, as if the Romans of the 5th century dressed, talked and worshipped the same way as their forebears who arrived in 43 AD.

  The Zoroastrian influence on Judaism is fascinating.

  By extension, the apocalyptic worldview of JWs - and Evangelical Christianity - finds its roots in Persia.
  
  
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  A Growing Problem for Materialists

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. social
  2. current

  the famous double-slit experiment proves that light travels both in individual particles called photons and also as a mathematical probability wave.

  matter itself exhibits this particle-wave duality which allows objects to exist in two different places at the same time, depending on whether of not you are looking (testing) at it.

  scientists have recently been able to get molecules as large as 2000 atoms to exhibit this duality!.

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  cofty

  Sea Breeze - I don't want to distract from TD's point but I also don't want to avoid your direct question.

  Briefly - it is impossible to deny the remote possibility that life on earth was seeded from outside our planet. However I think it is the least likely answer to the origin of life question - second only to 'god-did-it.

  Now please carry on engaging with TD who has pinpointed the fundamental flaw in the argument from 'information'.
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  A Growing Problem for Materialists

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. social
  2. current

  the famous double-slit experiment proves that light travels both in individual particles called photons and also as a mathematical probability wave.

  matter itself exhibits this particle-wave duality which allows objects to exist in two different places at the same time, depending on whether of not you are looking (testing) at it.

  scientists have recently been able to get molecules as large as 2000 atoms to exhibit this duality!.

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  I'm still not sure if we're talking about information in the sense of data, which does not require an intelligent mind or in the sense of communication which does. - TD

  Neither is Sea Breeze which is the problem.
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  Remind re: The "Cult" Label

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  if you accuse people of being stuck in jw mindset or "cult-like" mentality simply because someone has a different view of politics than you, you'll be deleted.. it's insulting and a lazy substitute for having any real argument for a proper debate.. what next ... "you smell" ?.

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  cofty

  Actually Morph plagiarized my post from six years ago. I got a lot of flack for it.

  Another poster suggested calling "Cofty's Law". Morph waited a few years and tried to resurrect it as his own brilliant idea.

  Accusing Ex-JWs of Behaving Like JWs Should be Taboo...

  I am seeing it repeatedly on the forum. I think it is cowardly.

  Sometimes it is appears in the form of accusing others of behaving like JW elders. To add insult to injury, it is frequently used by some who were never JWs.

  Consider what many of us had to go through to get out the cult - what is cost us in terms of family and friends. The intellectual struggles we experienced to get over years of indoctrination. The courage and integrity it took to reject everything we once held dear.

  To label somebody who disagrees with you as acting like a JW is a craven personal attack.

  There are occasions when it is simply a statement of fact - when somebody preaches end-times speculation for example - but to use it as a cheap shot is unacceptable.
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  A Growing Problem for Materialists

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. social
  2. current

  the famous double-slit experiment proves that light travels both in individual particles called photons and also as a mathematical probability wave.

  matter itself exhibits this particle-wave duality which allows objects to exist in two different places at the same time, depending on whether of not you are looking (testing) at it.

  scientists have recently been able to get molecules as large as 2000 atoms to exhibit this duality!.

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  cofty

  I have never denied the existence of what SB refers to as ' information'.

  My objection is that he is conflating two different senses of the word and misrepresenting the views of people who don't ascribe to theism.