Is that a change or am I reading too much into it? - SBF
I think it is rooted in the Watchtower idea of 'life' as reified 'thing' - a kind of force - that comes only from god.
Jesus helped make all the stuff but it needed god to animate it.
Posts by cofty
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15Are there any new ideas coming from the Watchtower Society?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy brother ( who is an elder ) tries very hard to get me back to the meetings.
he calls me every time he and his son ( he's also an elder) give a public talk.
they send me the zoom i.d.
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cofty
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon.
Why should anyone give credence to biblical miracles but not those of the Swami?
His miracles are far more recent and attested by multiple living witnesses.
You asked for names dates and places and I gave them to you.
Cognitive dissonance is not good for you.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
Fishy?
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
A group of six devotees had come to have darshan of Baba from Australia . Baba called them for a private interview.
During the normal course of the talk, Baba looked at one of the devotees and asked -- “Why did you come now. Your mother is not well. She needs you there back in Australia” .
He replied saying-- “Yes Baba, I called home yesterday night and this news was conveyed to me. I pray for her early recovery.”
Baba replied --
“Go home soon. She is asking for you. In fact go home now.”
So saying, Baba created a map of the world with the wave of the hand. He spread it on the wall and the following conversation took place : --
BABA : “Where is Australia in this map ?”
Devotee : “Here, Baba .” (Pointing to the map).
Baba touched it and the world map changed into an Australian map.
BABA : “Where in Australia do you say ?”
Devotee : “New South Wales, Baba .” (pointing to the map).
Baba touched it and the Australian map changed into the map of New South Wales.
BABA : “Where in New South Wales do you say ?”
When the devotee mentioned the place, Baba touched it and the chart changed to show all the apartments in the area.
Then Baba touched the house in which the man was staying and lo! the wall of the interview room became the door of the devotee’s home. Baba opened the door and showed the man his mother sleeping on the sofa. Baba called the man and asked him to go in and closed the door. He rubbed his hands on the door and the door became the wall of the interview room again!
Later when the Australians came out of the interview room, only five came out instead of the six who went in. The students of Prashanthi Nilayam campus saw this. Later they called back the man who was sent to Australia only an hour later, who confirmed his ‘safe arrival’.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
Names, dates, locations
Here are just two examples.
Walter Cowans, American tourist,
Christmas Day in 1971.
MadrasWitnesses ....
- Dr. John Hislop, a former professor and corporate executive, now retired and living in Mexico,
- Elsie Cowans, wife
- Mrs Ratan Lal family friend
- Judge Damadar Rao of Madras
Mr. V. RadhaKrishna, factory owner and a well known citizen in Kuppam India
1953
PuttaparthiWitnesses...
- wife
- daughter Vijaya
- son in law Mr. Hemchand
- Male nurse
- Multiple other locals who begged the wife to remove the body that was becoming putrid by the third day
Just two of many examples of astonishing miracles by the Swami with multiple witnesses. Why is their testimony worth less than an ancient book that contains contradictions and appalling moral edicts?
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
Yes of course he did. At least lots of people say he did.
And you don't have to rely on an old book that is a copy of a copy of a copy written a generation after the events,, you can interview them.
Why won't you believe them, they have no reason to lie.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
Are the thousands of witnesses to Sai Baba's miracles mistaken?
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
That is falsifiable or verifiable.
Thousands of eyewitnesses have recorded their testimony. Most of them are still alive and can be questioned.
Why are they less convincing than biblical accounts of miracles?
Mother Teresa may have performed more miracles seems to me
Mother Teresa was an odious hag who made a cult out of suffering.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
Let me know when he has the power to resurrect the dead from the cemetery or give sight to the blind or hearing to deaf minus glasses or a hearing aid.
Yes there are many witnesses to Shirdi Sai Baba doing all of those things
But that guy is another subject.
No it's exactly the same subject.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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cofty
The frequency of miracles is inversely proportionate to the spread of smart phones.
By definition a miracle is the least likely explanation for an unexplained event.
There are tens of thousands of witnesses to the miracles of Shirdi Sai Baba, I wonder whether you find their testimony to be convincing and if not why not?