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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

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  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  I pointed out the obscenity of a christian dogma that supposes an all powerful - all loving - being who decided from eternity past to condemn the vast majority of humans to eternal torture in the fires of hell before they were even born.

  That is fucked-up.

  You injected with a scatter-gun series of posts that piled many of the usual theist tropes on top of each other.

  If you want to get into it I am happy to discuss your tropes one at a time of specific threads. You have already demonstrated your propensity to change subject six times in an hour. That's not how to hold a useful conversation.

  'Laws of logic' is not a fruitful topic. 'The excluded middle - therefore Jesus' is facile.

  If you want I will start a new thread on biological evolution.
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  As I said not on this thread.
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  From RSR website..

  ..we get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott, and easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne

  1. If Fred has had conversations with Eugenie Scott and Jerry Coyne and can still refer to scientists as 'Darwinists' then he clearly has no interest in honest conversations.
  2. If Jerry Coyne didn't clear up his misconceptions then there is no chance I can help him. Coyne has forgotten more about science than I will ever know.

  But here we are you and I on an ex-JW forum. I know more than most ex-JWS about evolution and you are full to the brim with ill-informed tropes. So do you want to chose a specific (narrow and focused) topic and let's talk
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  Sea Breeze - How many random points are you planning on making in this thread?

  If I was playing theist bingo I would have a full house by now.

  The argument from morality is facile. Would you like start a new thread so I can explain? Or is it the theodicy or free will or soteriology you want to make assertions about? You really have hit the jackpot for ill-informed arguments against something you don't even begin to understand.

  I don't want to give the bullshit in the OP above any more attention than it deserves.

  By the way I thought it was odd when you said you 'wanted' to be an atheist. Why? I just wanted to follow the evidence - feelings be damned.
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  I'm also not angry at god. That would be stupid. I'm disgusted and repulsed by xtian theology.

  Keep on attacking strawmen.
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  I have never used evil as an argument against theism.

  Natural Evil does however prove that the god of Christian theism cannot exist
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  Shouldn't God give people what they really want?

  Sea Breeze your god is like an abusive husband who beats the crap out of his wife while shouting 'look what you made me do'.

  No christian genuinely loves such a monster. It's more akin to Stockholm Syndrome.
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  he needs to get rid of the people - Ratty

  Cult mind 101
  
  
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  Passport to Heaven

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

  nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

  but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

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  cofty

  Salvation from the eternal torture your god plans to inflict on everybody he decided since eternity past not to save.

  What an evil fucked up dogma you preach!
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  Wedding Anniversary #62

  by smiddy3 in

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  hi friends , i thought i would just let you know it`s my wife and i, 62nd wedding anniversary today.. not that we were able to celebrate much as my wife wasn`t up to it today .. however i did manage to give her a couple of champers at home ,while i had a couple o ales with friends down at the club and managed to put on lotto for tonite and a couple of keno`s from the club ,you never know the god`s might smile upon us for doing something right after all these years.?.

  take care guys.. smiddy 3.

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  cofty

  Congratulations Mr & Mrs Smiddy x