Posts by cofty

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

So the fact that it can be proven beyond all reasonable doubt that all species descended from a common ancestor through evolution over millions of years - a fact that contradicts everything you currently believe - and that this fact can be explained to a non-expert like yourself is of absolutely no interest to you?

Let's say just for the sake of argument that an intelligent designer is necessary to explain the origin of the cosmos. It is still a fact that humans and primates share a common ancestor. You don't care? Okay. Let me know when you find the courage/curiosity to challenge yourself.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

where the non living matter came from

Since when? I offered to guide you through the topic of biological evolution.

Every living thing descended from LUCA through evolution over millions of years. You admitted you have not read one single science book ever and I offered to help you. Instead you studiously avoid the topic I said I would help you with, ignore everything I write - involving considerable time and effort - and change the subject at least 5 times.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

Vidqun - You literally read NOTHING do you?

Never read a science book in your entire life, totally ignore what others tell you and keep copy-pasting bullshit.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

So we have gone from biological evolution to the first cell to abiogenesis to the origin of the cosmos.

WTF!

You still haven't actually read a single post and responded to it. I'm done

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

DNA can’t write itself.

If it was written the coder was an imbecile. Our genome is a car crash.

Do you want to learn something you didn't know before or just keep copy-pasting creationist tropes?

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

the Bacterial flagellar motor has to have been designed

This has been debunked more times than I can count. Paper after paper has described the evolution of the bacterial flagellum from simpler mechanisms.

It was even thrashed out in a court of law - Kitzmiller v Dover school board. It's astonishing that anybody still mentions this anymore.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

Random mutation acting on natural selection can’t build anything

Utter bollocks

Vidqun what is the point of parroting talking points from creationist websites and videos that you don't understand because you have never read an actual science book in your life?

Literally EVERYTHING in your previous post is complete nonsense.

This is why most people avoid conversations with creationists. There is a total lack of intellectual honesty combined with complete ignorance of the subject and a dogmatic certainty.

Are we talking about origin of life or the complexity of a cell or DNA or molecular machines or irreducible complexity or specified complexity or biological evolution? All of these things are different topics.

You can't just spew words into a thread that you mistakenly think are relevant and expect me or anybody else to refute all of it in a series of unconnected lengthy replies that you don't even take the time to read before copy-pasting your next unrelated trope!

There needs to be a genuine desire to learn, steelman the other person's position and engage in actual dialogue otherwise you are wasting time. Same goes for you EXb. You have yet to even acknowledge my long and thoroughly researched reply to your question. I've got better things to do.

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

So much middled thinking to sort out!

Why are we even trying to explain the most complex subject in biology - abiogenesis - when the original subject was evolution?

Every species on earth descended from LUCA over millions of years. This is certain and settled and the evidence is easy to grasp. That is where I offered to help you.

If you want to know how the most perfectly simple cell arose from chemistry in a hydrothermal vent read The Vital Question

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

EXb - where are you quoting from?

Who says amino acids can't combine into proteins in the lab?

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Chance or intelligent design?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

cofty

Thanks Phizzy - Yes it's Life ascending. Actually that book only has one chapter on abiogenesis. A more thorough study of the subject is in The Vital Question. Warning - it's quite hard going.