Posts by cofty

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

ExB - I thoroughly understand creationism in all its disguises. I could present the case for Intelligent Design as well as anybody. I could argue for young and old earth theories. I also have invested the time and effort to understand biological evolution.

I am willing to investigate anything you may wish to suggest and engage in conversation with anyone who disagrees with me.

How exactly does that sound like an ideological bubble?

You have never read a science book in your entire life and you are proud of this fact.

I offered you links to a choice of forty posts that I wrote that succinctly present a small piece of evidence. You refused to even look at them.

You are not a serious enquirer.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

Interesting isn't it?

No it's actually very muddled.

Will try to find time this evening to describe my understanding of the difference between objective and absolute morality.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

ExB - you are intellectually dishonest. Enjoy life in your self- imposed thought bubble.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

Here are FORTY pieces of evidence...

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

where is the simple pithy proof?

Exactly the same sort of genetic evidence that is used every day to prove paternity. If you can't or won't understand it please don't ever serve on a jury.

You have already admitted that you have never read a science book in your entire life so don't pretend you are actually interested in considering the evidence.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

Cofty and others try to say the missing link has been found

That you would write this shows you are commenting from a position of almost total ignorance of the subject.

You have never read a science book in your entire life have you?

Every living thing descended from a common ancestor over millions of years: the earth is not flat. These two statements are equally certain.

The vast majority of Christians accept the fact of evolution. It is only a small minority of fundies and most Muslims who don't.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

Hi Sea Breeze. I had a fantastic day meeting our new grandson - he is perfect!

It's late here in UK and I have work tomorrow but I look forward to joining the conversation about godless morality tomorrow evening. Spoiler alert - I tend to disagree with many atheists on this topic too.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

people can make a legitimate case that evolution in the sense of macroevolution has not been demonstrated as proven (to 100% certainty) - Del.JW

You are equivocating about the meaning of the word 'proof'.

It strictly belongs only to the realm of mathematics where it basically involves showing that a statement is a tautology. In every other field of knowledge we assess the balance of evidence. The fact that every living thing descended from a common ancestor over millions of years is as absolutely certain as the fact that the planet earth is not flat.

If you want to argue that this is not '100% proven' then carry on but how does it add anything useful? SBF and others hide behind it to pretend that anything is equally likely.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

Dis-JW - when somebody literally won't affirm that we can know the earth isn't flat because 'epistemic humility' then philosophy has become utter bullshit.

Evolution is a fact. Agnosticism is inappropriate. More reading is the solution.

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Better off PIMA than POMA or POMO.

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the situation is many of us are pima and all putting on a front, sometimes saying something we don’t fully believe.

or at least are actually agnostic about but a hope that it’s true.. but it can be useful if someone is really going through a hard time or has something they are very worried about, to say things like well let’s hope there is not much longer of this old system.. this can be useful in an awkward situation where you just don’t know what to do or say.

it’s a little bit of hope that can help when there is nothing else.. my agnosticism just means i won’t look back over decades thinking i wasted my life.

cofty

SBF - It's bullshit in the context of this discussion.

Do we 'FULLY' perceive reality? Define fully - but probably not. Do we have unassailable proof that earth is not flat? Absolutely.

You are addicted to mental masturbation.