no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
This is the primary purpose of man - to love God; it is why we are here. It is why there is anything at all. The second purpose is to love our neighbor as ourself
Which apparently can include slavery and infanticide. Awkward!
Morality is not about convention. It is objective because it is founded on actions that promote the flourishing of others. 'Godly' morality is arbitrary. It is based on divine whims and can include actions that are morally repugnant to all reasonable humans.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
No ... and?
Is your defence of god something like, 'humans do bad stuff too'
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
Were you defending slavery when you were a Christian?
No I was telling lies about the fact that god prescribes slavery by obfuscating about indentured servitude.
Slavery has been defended on this forum by xtians many times. So has infanticide. Theism turns some people into moral retards.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
Cofty: How do you know what brings happiness to other creatures?
Where did I mention happiness? Don't strawman me or we are finished.
Making somebody a slave doesn't promote their well being. Kidnapping them and raping them doesn't either.
Murdering babies en masse definitely doesn't promote anybodies well being.
How come we all know this but fundi xtians don't?
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
It's such a relief as a former theist to no longer have to defend the indefensible
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
I don't approve of slavery, kidnapping, rape or infanticide - Iriddle
God and Jesus do.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
SB - I would welcome an honest discussion of morality but if you are going to evade challenges by taking refuge in presuppositionalism I won't waste my time. It is deeply dishonest and intellectual cowardice.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
It's not worth trying to converse with pre-suppositionalists. They will literally gaslight you and expect you take their ravings seriously while refusing to engage with any evidence of any sort.
Their ignorance (of which they are frequently proud) is exceeded only by their arrogance.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
I'm going to ignore your ignorant drivel about evolution. READ A BOOK FFS!
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
How do you determine right from wrong
Christians pretend to determine it by reference to god's words and actions. This leaves them having to approve of slavery, kidnap, rape and infanticide.
Morality by divine fiat is no morality at all.
In reality they mostly get their morals in the same way as unbelievers. From approving those things that promote the well being of conscious creatures. Then they superimpose god-talk over the top of that which leads to impossible contradictions. Socrates saw the dilemma when he posed is famous dilemma to Euthyphro.
