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  The Reasoning Book

  by Magnum in

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  the book reasoning from the scriptures was released in the 1980's, and it was used at virtually every meeting for service, every service meeting, and every theocratic ministry school meeting thereafter.

  many jws had copies bound together with their bibles.

  it was huge in jw land back then.. at that time, with the reasoning book, jws were trained to keep conversations going in spite of objections, to almost stick their feet in people's doors to keep conversations going, to defend "the truth," to argue doctrine, etc.. compare the situation today with that of the 80's.

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  I hated that book. I knew how to answer questions from the bible and objected to being told to get the book out and read the answer. I never used it.
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  Is Jesus God?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.

  but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.

  scripture says he's the creator.

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  You can use the bible to prove whatever you want regarding the divinity of Jesus because the bible isn't a book - it's a library written by authors over a long period of time during which the theology of the church evolved.

  The developed doctrine of the trinity is post-biblical mumbo-jumbo.
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  JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

  i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

  he made a pretty good case.

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  It is true that JWs have a terrible record of practical love. It is all shallow and conditional.

  However it depends on how you define 'christian'. Jesus' earliest disciples were an apocalyptic sect who lived for the imminent end their own glorification. So they have a lot in common with primitive christianity.
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

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  2. bible

  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  There was no Adam and Eve.

  You can of course discuss the meanings of the myths but start from reality.
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  Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

  'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

  'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

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  TD answered your question on page 3. It was the definitive answer so you obviously ignored it and carried on. Typical!
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  What does God eat ?

  by stan livedeath in

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  beans ?

  ( human beans ).

  to those of you that believe in god: do you all believe the same thing ?.

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  If Jesus ascended with an actual body that was raised from the tomb are there toilets in heaven?
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  Hip replacement on Monday. Wish me luck.

  by GrreatTeacher in

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  2. medical

  as the title says i'm having a total hip replacement on monday.

  the pain has grown over the years and now i'm using a cane to walk.

  after steroid injections and physical therapy, it was decided that a total hip replacement is appropriate.

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  All the best for your operation. I'm sure it will go fine and you will be dancing a jig next new year x
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  A Coin With a Remarkable History

  by cofty in

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  over the years i have shared a few examples of objects i have found while metal detecting near my home in northumberland in ne england.

  i live in a rural estate that was the site of a medieval village with a manor house and defensive tower.

  many of the things i find illustrate the amazing history of the location.

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  Thanks Dagney. Maybe I will post a few more. Maybe a Roman one next
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  A Coin With a Remarkable History

  by cofty in

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  over the years i have shared a few examples of objects i have found while metal detecting near my home in northumberland in ne england.

  i live in a rural estate that was the site of a medieval village with a manor house and defensive tower.

  many of the things i find illustrate the amazing history of the location.

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  Ex-B the link between the intrinsic value of the metal and the value of the coin continued in England until the late 18th century. I have a few George III copper pennies that are gigantic.

  Since then coins are more akin to tokens.
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  A Coin With a Remarkable History

  by cofty in

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  over the years i have shared a few examples of objects i have found while metal detecting near my home in northumberland in ne england.

  i live in a rural estate that was the site of a medieval village with a manor house and defensive tower.

  many of the things i find illustrate the amazing history of the location.

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  Over the years I have shared a few examples of objects I have found while metal detecting near my home in Northumberland in NE England. I live in a rural estate that was the site of a medieval village with a manor house and defensive tower. Many of the things I find illustrate the amazing history of the location.

  A few years ago I found a silver coin minted at Gdnask in Poland in 1539. This is an extremely rare discovery in England; how did a Polish coin find its way to a rural village in Northumberland nearly 500 years ago?

  Along with looking for physical objects I also enjoy searching the archives to piece together the history of the lives of the people who once lived here, and one amazing discovery might shed light on the coin.

  On Sunday 3 January 1563 the resident of the manor house got some unexpected visitors. Two men by the names of Willye Tatt and Davie Chambers arrived and explained that they were servants of the Earl of Bothwell who was in displeasure with the Queen and Council of Scotland. John Reveley agreed that they could stay at his house for a few days. They returned the next day along with James Hepburn, 1st Duke of Orkney, 4th Earl of Bothwell, Lord High Admiral of Scotland. Bothwell had been imprisoned in Edinburgh Castle on trumped-up charges of plotting to kidnap Mary Queen of Scots. Having made an escape he had taken passage on a ship at Leith harbour but a storm had forced them to shelter at the Holy Island of Lindisfarne just a few miles from here. This was the period post-Reformation and Bothwell was a Catholic. The estate here was one of two Catholic centres in North Northumberland.

  A few days later Bothwell asked John Reveley to provide a guide to take his man Chambers back to Holy Island to see if there were any ships. John sent his nephew, also called John Reveley, and instructed him to bring back some more bottles of wine. Captain Roger Carew of the Berwick Garrison testified that he was making a secret search of Holy Island for Bothwell on Wednesday 6 January when he became aware of John Reveley junior seeking wine. He became suspicious that there may be guests at Berrington and dispatched the garrison to investigate. John Howard the Master of Ordinance of Berwick, Captain Cornewall, and John Dacres the Under Marshall, led the garrison from Berwick to Berrington in the middle of the night. John Reveley got out his bed in his shirt and confirmed he had guests staying in the vault ‘without his lodging’. The Earl had the door locked from the inside but his men answered it believing it to be Reveley who was knocking. They found Bothwell in bed, with his men fully clothed and armed and horses saddled. They took him into custody between four and five on the Thursday morning.

  Bothwell spent some time in prison in England before returning to the royal court in Edinburgh. He was the prime suspect in the murder of Lord Darnley, the husband of Mary in 1567. Scottish society was outraged when Mary went on to marry Bothwell, her husband's murderer the same year. Mary fled to England, to years of imprisonment and her eventual execution by her cousin Elizabeth I. Bothwell perished in a dungeon in Dragsholm Castle in Denmark in 1578.

  So what has all this to do with our coin? Well the records also show that Bothwell was on naval duties in Copenhagen in 1560 - where he met, married and abandoned the Norwegian noblewoman Anna Thronsden who was in Denmark assisting her father who was serving as the Royal Consul. Copenhagen is a relatively short sail from Gdnask and trade between the two ports would have been plentiful. The value of coins in this period lay in the intrinsic value of the silver they contained so foreign coins had the same value as domestic ones. It seems entirely likely that this coin was once owned by Bothwell and lost when he was removed to prison in the middle of the night. Five centuries later I found the coin that was last seen by the future King of Scotland - at least that is the story I will be telling my grandson.