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  Non-evidence reasons why people embrace Evolution.

  by hooberus in

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  evolutionists always claim that the reason why they believe in evolution and reject creation is due to "evidence".

  they frequently use the opposite term "no evidence" in relation to any type of intelligent design, or creation, (and especially to genesis creation and flood history !).

  their advocated beliefs always tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the existence of the universe, world, and its creatures without needing god).

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  my goal, here, which was to understand how something that could be (and probably was) peer-reviewed PROVES something that, as it stands, does not.

  Yes it was peer reviewed, it was so ground breaking it earned Lenski admission to the National Academy of Science. The experiment started in 1988 and is still ongoing. The oldest populations of E coli are now in their 52 000th generation. It is an amazing experiment and will continue to yield new discoveries.

  It was clearly explained above that nobody ever claimed it proved human evolution, it never will.
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  Front Load Washers. Are they good?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i have been thinking about getting front load washer for my home, but i have not decided which brand, etc to get.

  any recommendations?.

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  Front loaders are the most common format in UK. I think the advantage is their size, they can fit under a kitchen worktop. In my experience the central hub bearing is prone to wear, its almost always the first thing to go. There is a new motor design by Dyson that looks superb but is more expensive.
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  Contribution Boxes At The Book Groups , Did You Donate More There Than The Hall ?

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  this may have been covered a few years back but the thought came to me just how much money the wathtower lost in contributions when they got rid of the book study groups in witnesess homes.

  my book group was at my parents house and as it was always full, over 30 drones every tuesday night.

  this caused mayhem in the road outside with all the cars double parking etc... the jw's at my group always put loads of wonga into the tin on the welsh dresser!

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  Are you a from Scotland ?,

  Bloody cheek!
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  Religion is Dead..

  by Quirky1 in

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  in my books...

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  There seems to be a disparity between USA and UK/Western Europe. Christianity is dying rapidly over here, thank god.
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  Non-evidence reasons why people embrace Evolution.

  by hooberus in

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  evolutionists always claim that the reason why they believe in evolution and reject creation is due to "evidence".

  they frequently use the opposite term "no evidence" in relation to any type of intelligent design, or creation, (and especially to genesis creation and flood history !).

  their advocated beliefs always tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the existence of the universe, world, and its creatures without needing god).

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  Why do we argue about this stuff? Why is it all so important for people to see things the way we do?

  Perhaps becasue the tension between science and dogma really does matter. It was appeals to the superiority of traditions and superstitions over objective truths that kept us in the borg. Science has the potential to solve the biggest problems that the world faces, its achievements are already awesome and millions owe their lives to it progress.

  There is no problem with people believing in a higher power if they wish and worshiping as they see fit, but when they elevate religious feelings over objective reality and expect others to share their delusions it matters.

  As JWs we were denied access to amazing truths about our world, as ex-jws many still deny themselves and go on trying to poison the well for others - that matters.

  Religious fundamentalism poses a real threat to the world, and not only from Islam. When we escaped the borg it was not just a release from one particular cult it was an opportunity to embrace a life unfettered by dogma. When people promote other versions of what we escaped from I think it matters.
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  Homeopothy

  by cofty in

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  Just like homeopathy - full of nothing.

  Thank you I had missed the irony
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  Homeopothy

  by cofty in

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  Yeah I thought so :)

  I started to type a thread title - made a spelling mistake, pressed backspace a few times only I had actually pressed enter and it uploaded 5 copies of the same blank post grrrrr

  Sorry!

  Was going to have a post a vid on homeopathy that made me laugh, now I'm going to go to bed instead :)
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  Homeopothy

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  Non-evidence reasons why people embrace Evolution.

  by hooberus in

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  evolutionists always claim that the reason why they believe in evolution and reject creation is due to "evidence".

  they frequently use the opposite term "no evidence" in relation to any type of intelligent design, or creation, (and especially to genesis creation and flood history !).

  their advocated beliefs always tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the existence of the universe, world, and its creatures without needing god).

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  how these, the e.coli experiment and medium ground finch observation (primarily, the e.coli matter) SHOW... that humans, homo sapien... EVOLVED... from ANOTHER, DIFFERENT species

  Lenski's experiment demonstrates the immense power of random beneficial mutations. In fact not just one mutation but a combination of mutations of the kind that exponents of IC claim can't happen. If by "show" you are implying "prove" then of course it does not prove any such thing by itself. The evidence for evolution is an immense accumulation of facts from a wide variety of disciplines but we have already said that.

  The reason TD and I raised the subject of Gulls was to find out what you currently beleive about speciation. Even in your latest post you seem unclear in your own mind about it. At some points you seem ready to permit multiple species evolving from a common ancestor species and at other times you only seem to want to allow "sub-species". The example of gulls would have been a useful way to clarify your position if only you hadn't dismissed it so blithely.

  Your particular area of interest seems to be in human evolution and specifically how scientists know that we share a common ancestry with other animal and plant species.

  The answer is multi-faceted. If you asked a group of scientists what particular sort of evidence they find most convincing I am sure you would get a variety of answers but all of them would stress that it does not rest on one fact of group of facts. That is why a number of contributors to this thread have recommended you commit to studying a good introduction to evolution.

  If I was pressed to choose one thing that I find most compelling it would be genetic evidence. The quantity and quality of evidence for human's common ancestry with other apes and our descent through unguided evolution that resides in every cell in your body is overwhelming. (okay pedants, apart from red blood cells)

  Shelby I have been disapointed by your tactics in this thread. Your high-handed assertions that others refuse to, or can't, answer your question is so clearly unfair when you look at how much patience has been shown to you. Your posts have been the very epitome of obfuscation.
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  Non-evidence reasons why people embrace Evolution.

  by hooberus in

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  evolutionists always claim that the reason why they believe in evolution and reject creation is due to "evidence".

  they frequently use the opposite term "no evidence" in relation to any type of intelligent design, or creation, (and especially to genesis creation and flood history !).

  their advocated beliefs always tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the existence of the universe, world, and its creatures without needing god).

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  it seems to me that the only two ways to reject that conclusion are to either reject that evidence or to present evidence of your own that would refute it. I think it is most telling that opposing arguments presented by advocates of creation often fall into the former catagory. It's a pattern that seems to have unfolded even on this thread. (Despite its title!) - TD

  Ironic isn't it?