your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
the chemistry part of Soai's paper does not detract from your chemistry - Ruby
Actually it does EXACTLY that.
Kate - All the stuff that makes up living things is left-handed. That could not happen by accident therefore it must be guided by a creator.
Kenso Soai (21 years ago) - Look I have shown how replicating stuff can end up all left-handed. We can now explain exactly how that happens naturally.
These two positions could not be more diametrically opposed.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
So imo she does agree with Kenso Soai - Ruby
Kenso Soai's greatest scientific achievement was to show that homochirality occurs naturally - no guidance required.
Read the title of the thread and the OP and tell me how you can say Kate agrees with Soai? Kate and Soai are saying exactly opposite things. Soai is the world renowned expert on asymmetric autocatalysis.
Ask yourself why Kate has made dozens of posts on this thread and studiously avoided mentioning the inconvenient fact that Soai solved this puzzle in 1995.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
If thisi is the case you simply will not understand what Kenso Soai was saying. Kate understands him - listen to her for goodness sake - Ruby
Ruby do you know anything at all about Kenso Soai? Have you read about his amazing experiment?
His paper is the absolute refutation of Kate's point. He proved that the "left-handedness" of life arose as an inevitable result of autocatalysis. It is not a sign of guidance it is bucket chemistry.
Kate had not heard about Soai's work until I told her about it. Kate doesn't understand Soai at all. In this entire thread she can't bring herself to say his name. She continues to pretend he doesn't exist.
I will make this topic the subject of my next but one thread in my Evolution is a Fact series and explain it in more detail.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
He is an atheist but his enchantment and dare I say religiosity shines from his demeanor - Ruby
No you dare not.
as the title says--i'm out of here for good.. the site is full of atheists, communists, 7th day adventists, creationists, believers, deceivers, receivers, football supporters,.
dodgy types, cantleave---and assorted wankers.. so no place for me--because i'm none of the above so dont fit in.
so--this is goodbye forever my friends--its been almost average knowing you.
IT'S SATIRE!
as the title says--i'm out of here for good.. the site is full of atheists, communists, 7th day adventists, creationists, believers, deceivers, receivers, football supporters,.
dodgy types, cantleave---and assorted wankers.. so no place for me--because i'm none of the above so dont fit in.
so--this is goodbye forever my friends--its been almost average knowing you.
Time for bed Stan. See you in the morning
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
It's the same probability as getting heads 99 times out of 100 - Kate
Did you ever read the paper I linked for you months ago?
Autocatalysis makes it inevitable that if there is the slightest difference in the balance of chiral products then you will get 999 heads out of a thousand. No guidance required.
Do you understand the implications of autocatalysis and how it results in exponential growth?
This so-called problem was solved by Kenso Soai in 1995. Why have you totally ignored his work in this thread?
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Just quickly before I have to go.
Kate please explain succinctly how your challenge is different in principle from the following...
Believer - Rainbows are amazing, therefore god
Rational person - Science has explained the physical laws that cause a rainbow. It is caused by the refraction of light. Different wavelengths of light diffract by different amounts.
Believer - Those laws are amazing, therefore god.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
I think homochirality is a millstone around the neck of abiogenesis. I think the first proteins couldn't arise from a primordial soup with only racemic ingredients. - RedPill
How much time have you spent investigating this so-called problem? Did you know it was solved years ago? Guess what? It turned out not to be magic!
I have explained it to Kate at least three or four times but she just keeps singing lalalalalala....
I'm busy right now but I will explain it later.
hey all, .
so i recently posted for the first time and introduced myself.. i have been spending time reading various posts.
some informative, some not so much.. since i've been reading on here, i've read a lot from atheists.
Did you call me dishonest? - Kate
I don't remember. I have often accused theists of intellectual dishonesty.
Please post a link so I can see the context.
