They borrowed the Devil and demons concepts from their godless neighbors.
So why are you arguing against every subsequent reference to Satan in the NT?
I'm confused what your point is.
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88After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
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by Simon ini thought i'd spend some time cleaning up the forum code and wanted to let you know about some of the recent changes and fixes:.
the avatars and in-post images used to use a separate imaging service which was convenient but didn't provide much control over caching which meant that each day you visited the site you were probably re-downloading those images again.
as they are immutable they can be cached for a long time which saves bandwidth and speeds things up.
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cofty
Outstanding! Thank you
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
There is no devil or Satan in the pre-exile OT.
He was borrowed from the Zoroastrian religion in Babylon.
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
We should be careful not to transpose thoughts from different parts of the bible. - quin
So why are you using an obscure reference in Rev to interpret the letter of James?
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
Sorry I can't muster the enthusiasm to continue a debate about imaginary creatures. -
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Updates and fixes
by Simon ini thought i'd spend some time cleaning up the forum code and wanted to let you know about some of the recent changes and fixes:.
the avatars and in-post images used to use a separate imaging service which was convenient but didn't provide much control over caching which meant that each day you visited the site you were probably re-downloading those images again.
as they are immutable they can be cached for a long time which saves bandwidth and speeds things up.
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cofty
Thanks Simon. I only understood some of that! It is looking tidy.
Top of my wish list would be the ability to link directly to a specific post.
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
From where do people get that conclusion that the tempter was a spirit?
Matt 25:41
John 8:44
John 13:2
Eph 6:11
1Tim 3:6
Heb 2:14
Jas 4:7
1Pet 5:8
1John 3:8-10
Jude 1:9
Rev 2:10
Rev 12:9-12
Rev 20:2, 7-10 -
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
Belief in a spirit being referred to as Satan &/or the Devil was very much part of 1st Century Jewish thought.
Why should the verses not mean exactly what they say?
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
That which can be asserted without evidence.....
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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cofty
The Greek word is diabolos which literally means accuser.
In most if not all occurrences of the word in the NT it refers to imaginary god's imaginary nemesis.
I am struggling to find the word Pharisee in Matthew 4.