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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur? Redux

  by shadow in

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  i am posting a second topic on this subject since the first one became overrun by snakes.. cofty posted a link to a published paper discussing this topic and referred to the information in it as "facts".

  here is my summary of that paper along with comments on it.. one of the opening statements says that:.

  two frequently debated aspects of hominin evolution are the development of upright bipedal stance and reduction in body hair.. so for those who believe this is a stupid topic, it is a subject of interest to many stupid people including the authors of the paper referred to by cofty.

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  Yawn
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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur? Redux

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a second topic on this subject since the first one became overrun by snakes.. cofty posted a link to a published paper discussing this topic and referred to the information in it as "facts".

  here is my summary of that paper along with comments on it.. one of the opening statements says that:.

  two frequently debated aspects of hominin evolution are the development of upright bipedal stance and reduction in body hair.. so for those who believe this is a stupid topic, it is a subject of interest to many stupid people including the authors of the paper referred to by cofty.

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  cofty

  there are a lot more examples in support of creation but no doubt you will say none of them have any merit

  Bring them on and we will see. In years of studying the subject and thoroughly examining all sorts of objections to evolution I have yet to find one that wasn't facile.

  So it's two fails out of two.

  Maybe you could stick to facts and cut out the ad hominem?
  
  
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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur? Redux

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a second topic on this subject since the first one became overrun by snakes.. cofty posted a link to a published paper discussing this topic and referred to the information in it as "facts".

  here is my summary of that paper along with comments on it.. one of the opening statements says that:.

  two frequently debated aspects of hominin evolution are the development of upright bipedal stance and reduction in body hair.. so for those who believe this is a stupid topic, it is a subject of interest to many stupid people including the authors of the paper referred to by cofty.

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  cofty

  picking out one paper and saying that it had the facts to answer the question posted. A question so simple that a schoolchild could answer it.

  The paper I posted does answer the question. A schoolchild should be able to answer it.

  In order to rule out creationism it is not necessary to show the definitive answer to a specific challenge. Let's say you come across a stone arch for the first time in your life. You have no idea how it could be built because it would obviously fall down at every stage until the keystone is in place. Therefore you conclude that god made it. In order to prove that you are wrong I only have to demonstrate one possible naturalistic answer. I might show how it could be built using a wooden scaffold that was then dismantled. It doesn't matter at all if somebody else insists that it was built using a mound of sand and somebody else is certain it was built using a pile of earth.

  Any naturalistic answer that works proves that supernatural answers are unnecessary.

  The same goes for your rather odd objection that the loss of hair contradicts evolution. You have listed 12 reasons - any one of which proves you are resorting to superstitions. Well done!

  Science has transformed the world for the better. It really works. It makes predictions and tests them. It does everything possible to disprove its own assumptions and throws out what doesn't work. It is based on methodological naturalism.

  In other words every mystery ever solved turned out not to be magic.
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  Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur? Redux

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a second topic on this subject since the first one became overrun by snakes.. cofty posted a link to a published paper discussing this topic and referred to the information in it as "facts".

  here is my summary of that paper along with comments on it.. one of the opening statements says that:.

  two frequently debated aspects of hominin evolution are the development of upright bipedal stance and reduction in body hair.. so for those who believe this is a stupid topic, it is a subject of interest to many stupid people including the authors of the paper referred to by cofty.

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  There is disagreement between scientists on the advantage of loss of body hair - so what?

  Our ancestors were hairy - we are not. The reason why is still open to debate. Thermal regulation is a strong candidate.

  In my mind it calls into question all of the topics posted on the subject of evolution

  That is so intellectually dishonest it is ridiculous.

  There are millions of details about the minutiae of evolution that have still to be worked out. You highlighted a very trivial one. I could have suggested far more significant examples.

  Imagine a Juror who listens to days of evidence regarding the guilt of a murderer. There is DNA evidence, physical evidence, phone records, forensics, fingerprints etc etc. However witnesses disagree whether or not the man they saw running from the scene was wearing a baseball cap.

  If one of the jurors wanted to throw out all of the evidence based on that detail and then you discovered the juror had failed to declare he was a friend of the accused, what would you think of him?

  The evidence that every living thing evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution is beyond sensible debate. The ONLY reason anybody doubts it is wilful ignorance or religious bias.

  Shadow - What books that present the scientific evidence for evolution have you studied?

  I'm guessing the honest answer is none and that you will ignore the question as every creationist I have asked so far has done.
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  Evolution Hole #1 - Origin of Life

  by shadow in

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  disclaimer: my graduate degree is in business, not science so i'm writing as a layman in this field.

  yes, i know that someone is going to say that evolution does not encompass this topic and should be sectioned off under abiogenesis.

  i'm not trying to argue semantics here but it seems like a case of avoiding an uncomfortable subject.

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  That's just your mind Ruby Ruby Ruby Ruby....
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  Evolution Hole #1 - Origin of Life

  by shadow in

  1. watchtower
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  disclaimer: my graduate degree is in business, not science so i'm writing as a layman in this field.

  yes, i know that someone is going to say that evolution does not encompass this topic and should be sectioned off under abiogenesis.

  i'm not trying to argue semantics here but it seems like a case of avoiding an uncomfortable subject.

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  cofty

  That's a good summary of Lane & Martin's ideas. Unfortunately the editor has used a picture of an acidic Black Smoker vent rather than an Alkaline vent. The two environments could not be more different.
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  [Generic evolution vs. creation thread]

  by sir82 in

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  to save us all a lot of time and effort..... [some complex structure in living organisms described].

  [i can't imagine how this could be the product of evolution].

  [therefore god created it].

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  I won't be listening ... because I have a strong emotional connection to my beliefs.

  If only more believers were as honest.

  
  
  
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  Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

  by xxBettyBoopxx in

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  this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

  but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

  tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

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  cofty, what do you recommend for Betty to do? - BRJ

  Every exJW should focus of education, career, hobbies, family, friends, fun etc. Leave the big questions aside for long time until you are ready to come back to them much later.

  Church is the last thing any exJW needs.

  Christ loves...........why do you hate him? - BRJ

  I don't hate imaginary things. I oppose people who try to foist their superstitions on other vulnerable people.

  the love of Christians is the answer - BRJ

  Outside the cult there are many great people who won't judge you for not believing ridiculous things like they do.

  You could show a little tiny bit of respect for other people's beliefs occasionally - rebel

  I respect others too much to go along with their delusions.

  especially when they show up on the forum hurting

  Don't worry, I know BettyBoo very well. Church is the last thing she wants.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  [Generic evolution vs. creation thread]

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to save us all a lot of time and effort..... [some complex structure in living organisms described].

  [i can't imagine how this could be the product of evolution].

  [therefore god created it].

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  cofty

  God created us in his image, which would give us his genetic ability

  What do you mean by "genetic ability"?

  would we not be the creators of life on Mars if we can do that?

  No. Why would we engineer new organisms when earth is teeming with millions of species already, many of whom thrive in the most extreme environments?

  would not that life no matter how simple be able to become self aware by Darwinist evolutionary theory?

  No. Bacteria and archaea have been on earth for 4 billion years. They show no signs of becoming self-aware

  
  

  he first astronaut to set foot on the planet will be highly evolved life, not microbes, so Darwin's theory is dead at this point.

  How did you make that connection? An astronaut goes to Mars and somehow that disproves evolution!
  
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  Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

  by xxBettyBoopxx in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

  but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

  tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

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  cofty

  she has a hole in her soul looking for meaning

  Do you have a whole collection of those platitudes?