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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

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  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  If you say you can't believe in the God of Jesus in light of suffering from natural disasters. It is of course relevant to point out that Jesus himself apparently believed in his God despite natural disasters that he spoke about.

  1 - A tower collapsing is NOT a natural disaster.

  2 - The Galileans did not die in a natural disaster; they were murdered by Herod.

  3 - Jesus gave an explanation for the death of the men in the tower. They were unrepentant sinners.

  4 - Jesus said his hearers would similarly perish UNLESS they repent.

  5 - He never said a single word about natural disasters.

  6 - Natural disasters kill people indiscriminately including repentant sinners, babies and infants.

  7 - Jesus taught a god who is love

  8 - The god who created a world that randomly kills millions of its inhabitants would be a evil god.

  Therefore the god of Jesus does not exist.

  Every post you have made in the past few pages is nothing but obfuscation. But you already know that. As usual it's all a dishonest game to you.
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  Jesus was aware of natural disasters and that it didn't dent his belief in God

  Translated as "I have not got the first clue how to reconcile dogma with reality but I know of a man who lived 2000 years ago who probably might have known what the answer might be - but actually he never even left us a hint."

  That is the most pathetic example of christian apologetics I have ever witnessed. Christians will be thinking you are trying to defend their beliefs just to make them look bad.
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  The point I was making is that Jesus was well aware of natural disasters and it apparently didn't stop his faith in God. Therefore your claim that natural disasters are incompatible with Jesus' God is at the very least problematic.

  The text you used to try to prove your point was totally useless to that end but you persisted nevertheless.

  If it ever crossed Jesus' mind how a tsunami could be reconciled with a god of love he never shared his thoughts.

  Of course the two can't ever be reconciled therefore we can safely conclude Jesus was deluded.

  it apparently didn't stop his faith in God

  He thought he was god. If he was live today he would be on a par with David Ike
  
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  Hit by a car evacuating due to oroville dam. Ever been hit?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  went back to get info from driver who tapped our car in line of cars exiting the area.

  after getting her info, she waited till i walked back to our car and punched the gas, hitting me.

  then drove off.

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  It was in the mosque car park.

  Why?
  
  
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  Yes as we see from your posts above you can make the bible mean absolutely anything you wish.

  Nothing that you have said even begins to meet the challenge. Nothing but sophistry..
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”

  
  For the fourth time the Asian tsunami destroyed tens of thousands who had repented as well as thousands of innocent babies and infants.

  Therefore Luke 13 is irrelevant to the conversation.

  The god of Jesus is love. The god who caused the Asian tsunami would be evil. Therefore the god of Jesus does not exist.
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  He didn't offer the excuse that people die for a reason or they must have done something to deserve it.

  Yes that is precisely what he said.

  Like all unrepentant inhabitants of Jerusalem they got what was coming to them and his hearers would liable to suffer a similar fate UNLESS THEY REPENT.

  So if they do repent they won't suffer the same fate. That is the deal.

  The Asian tsunami and similar events killed thousands of christians who had repented as well as thousands of innocent babies. Reality makes a liar of Jesus and the god of Jesus does not exist.

  It's very tedious having to explain this repeatedly.
  
  
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  So at last you agree with my understanding of the text.

  As I said above "The victims of the Asian tsunami included thousands of christians who had already repented as well as countless innocent babies and infants. This was not a perfect act of love. Therefore the god of Jesus does not exist."

  A god who murders his own and who kills babies for the fun of watching them drown is not the epitome of love. Therefore Jesus was deluded.
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  Matthew Henry agrees precisely with what I wrote above.

  The men who died were not "great sinners" they were just unrepentant sinners like the rest of Jerusalem. Therefore repent or perish.

  It's bloody simple.
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  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

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  cofty

  Are you reading the same thing?

  Yes. But your comprehension skills seem to be lacking.

  The men who died in the tower were guilty and deserving of death. But no more guilty than the rest of Jerusalem - all of whom rejected Jesus' call to repentance.

  The victims of the Asian tsunami included thousands of christians who had repented as well as countless innocent babies and infants. This was not a perfect act of love. Therefore the god of Jesus does not exist.