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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  cofty

  Fishy - Once again you are plucking verse right out of context. Stop it it makes you look desperate.

  Go back and check the context of Leviticus 22. It is the list of additional restrictions that applied only to priesthood and not to Israelites in general.

  “Tell Aaron and his sons..." - Lev.22:1

  A priest could not touch a dead body or have sex with his wife of do lots of other things that ordinary Israelites could do without having to go through a purification ritual.

  The very fact that a priest could not eat an animal found already dead underlines the fact that other Israelites could.

  It was forbidden to become unclean.

  Nonsense. How could you forbid somebody from having sex for example? If your animal died you had to either eat it or bury it. Both resulted in you being made unclean. Uncleanness was not a crime. All you had to do was bath and change your clothes. No penalty for uncleanness. The only punishment was if you didn't observe the procedure to be clean - bathe and change.
  

  You still have to explain Lev.11 and Lev.17

  Stop avoiding the difficult questions Fishy,.

  I explained all of that in detail in my article.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  cofty

  Care to point one out

  You avoid every difficult question. You have listened to hours of Wm L Craig videos and formed your arguments in a bubble. Every word you write is either WLC or S. Meyer. You bounce all over the place using copy-paste as if you have written it yourself and never provide links. You ignore every argument of substance.

  You never converse or attempt to understand anything others are saying.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  cofty

  Bollocks.

  Christians worship an omnipotent god who is the epitome of love.

  Natural disasters prove they are deluded.

  Claiming that it is a mystery is nothing but dishonesty.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  So the idea of an all powerful God who allows bad things is not alien to the Bible.

  The bible is the motherload of dumbass sayings and contradictions.

  Natural disasters proves that an omnipotent and loving god does not exist.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  cofty

  The bible provides on answers only dogma.

  1. He is all powerful.
  2. He is perfect in love.
  3. We can't always understand why God acts as he does.

  This is not an answer. It is an appeal to admit a blatant contradiction. No chance.

  Designing a world that inevitably blows up and randomly kills millions of its inhabitants is not something an all-powerful and loving god would do.

  Either he is a bad designer or a sadist.

  Either way he is not the god of christian theism.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  cofty

  To construct even one short protein molecule of 150 amino acids by chance within the prebiotic soup

  You are decades out of date. Nobody thinks life began in a prebiotic soup.

  You have never read a book on evolution in your life have you?

  DNA provides incontrovertible proof that all of life evolved from a common ancestor over millions of years.

  PS - If you must copy-paste have the honesty to provide a link to the source.
  
  
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  "But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God?"

  Paul said a lot of stupid things. Maybe he trembled in god's presence. Doesn't mean we have to be so gullible.

  Their conception of God often included the idea that his qualities are difficult to reconcile

  Yes they talked a lot of self-contradictory bollocks. Surely you noticed that when you read the bible? We are all a lot wiser than anybody who contributed to the bible.
  
  
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  cofty

  Not my conclusions Fishy the plain testimony of scripture.

  The bible says eating the unbled flesh of an animal found already dead resulted only in being unclean until the evening.

  You have all your work ahead of you.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  cofty

  Killing an animal and eating its blood is a crime.
  Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.” - Lev.17:13,14

  Finding a dead animal and eating its unbled flesh is not a crime.
  Anyone, whether native-born or foreigner, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then they will be clean. - Lev.17:15

  Please explain the difference Fishy and reconcile it with Deut 14. Don't just keep repeating the same phrase out of context.
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

  1. watchtower
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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  cofty

  There is nothing in that video that addresses my point. The guy that witters on about earthquakes is an ignorant buffoon.