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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  cofty

  Which scriptures?

  So far every one you have suggested has failed.
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  2 Peter 1 = Deity of Christ.

  by towerwatchman in

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  2 peter 1 = deity of christ.

  2 pe.

  1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .

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  I think you are mistaking contempt for anger.
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  Mathematically Measuring Evolution.

  by towerwatchman in

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  mathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.

  morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.

  using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.

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  When we look deeper into the nucleotide sequences then we find an even greater example of evidence for common ancestry. Humans and chimps differ by 4 DNA letters but the very same amino acid sequence. The same pattern is repeated throughout life demonstrating gradual evolution over millions of years.
  
  
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  Mathematically Measuring Evolution.

  by towerwatchman in

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  mathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.

  morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.

  using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.

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  The sequences are remarkably similar across species, especially at certain positions.

  For example, every one has a phenylalanine at position 10, a histidine at 18, a proline at 30 and a methionine at 80. Clearly, evolution selects against any change at these positions.
  

  In addition, numerous sites display a limited number of changes, in most cases allowing only residues with similar properties.

  For example, residue 98 can be only leucine, isoleucine, or valine - all lipophilic residues.

  Likewise, His18 (shown in the graphic above), which coordinates to the heme iron, is conserved throughout.

  The implication is that the strongly conserved residues contribute significantly to the structure and function of the protein.

  Other positions contribute very little and are highly variable; evolutionary drift randomizes these residues.

  Note that human and chimpanzee sequences are identical, and macaque and spider monkey are very similar to the human/chimpanzee sequence. This implies a common and relatively recent evolutionary divergence...
  
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  Mathematically Measuring Evolution.

  by towerwatchman in

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  mathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.

  morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.

  using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.

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  BTW that is a nice tree. Again any interpretation is subjective, How can measure anything using the tree?

  Nothing subjective about that diagram. It is mathematically accurate the length of each branch is based on the degree of difference in amino acid sequence.

  Anybody who understands basic statistics can see the dishonesty in your OP.

  Here is the actual sequences for anybody who wants to compare them. It perfectly illustrates common ancestry.

  
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Excellent summary Stavro thank you.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Not all aliens were proselytes - Fishy

  That is not interesting. The law that permitted the eating of an animal found already dead applied to natural born Israelites.

  Ezekiel was a priest therefore he was not permitted to eat an animal found already dead as all other Israelites were.

  God allowed Israelites to eat dead animals, torn animals, and unclean meat ( pigs, rats, owls

  I have never said anybody was given permission to eat pigs. The text at Lev.11 says "If an animal of which you may eat dies, anyone who touches its carcass shall be unclean until the evening. Those who eat of its carcass shall wash their clothes and be unclean until the evening; and those who carry the carcass shall wash their clothes and be unclean until the evening." Please don't resort to telling lies.
  
  

  Page after page of you avoiding the hard questions Fishy. You are embarrassing yourself.

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  God to Israel - "If you kill an animal and eat it unbled I will have you stoned to death. If you eat an unbled animal that died of itself I will insist you take nice warm bath and put on a clean robe."

  Explain the reason for the difference Fishy.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Yes Ezekiel 4 is an interesting reference. It is significant that Ezekiel was a priest. Eating an animal found dead was not an option for him as it was for normal Israelites. (c.f. Lev.22)
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  Mathematically Measuring Evolution.

  by towerwatchman in

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  mathematically measuring evolution.. when judging relationships in terms of morphological characteristics we will always be bound by the subjective.

  morphologically one cannot exactly measure the distance between two organisms strictly in mathematical terms.

  using the standard method of taxonomy we cannot quantify the difference between a horse and a mouse, or know which is closer mouse to cat, or mouse to fish.

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  cofty

  The diagram below shows sequence similarity for cytochrome C.

  The lengths of the branches in this tree are drawn proportional to the number of differences in the primary sequence.

  The tree clearly reveals the three main kingdoms of eukaryotes: fungi, animals, and plants.

  Such trees tend to agree closely with those constructed by evolutionary biologists using morphological data, and provide independent evidence of common descent.

  
  
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  Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

  by kpop in

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  so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

  how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

  how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

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  Ouch!

  Appalling choice of phrase.

  I don't distrust Sadiq Khan. Maajid Nawaz has respect for him which is not a bad recommendation.