the subject matter is the origin of biological information
Information is simply a metaphor in biology.
Comparative DNA proves beyond all possible doubt that every living thing evolved from a common ancestor over millions of years.
Posts by cofty
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315Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman inatheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
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cofty
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
Fishy - You have made absolutely no effort to answer those two questions. Not one single word.
I appreciate you are embarrassed because you have no answer to them but do not resort to lying. If I remember correctly Jehovah hates lying.
All you have done so far is to repeat the first question in various forms - pretending not to understand the question, and you have never responded in any way to the second question.
I am going to keep posting them until you answer or concede you have no answer.
Question 1
Lev.17: 13 & 14 state very clearly that he who hunts an animal for food and does not bleed it will be "cut off".Verse 15 says that he who eats an animal that dies of itself will be unclean until the evening. The only requirement is to have bath and change clothes.
Why is there a difference if the blood is sacred in the way JWs believe it to be?
Question 2.
For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you for making atonement for your lives on the altar; for, as life, it is the blood that makes atonement. - Lev.17:11According to this verse an Israelite farmer could have brought gallons of blood drained from live animals to the altar to atone for his sins.
Do you agree or not Fishy?
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman inatheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
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cofty
Information in DNA is nothing but a metaphor.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you for making atonement for your lives on the altar; for, as life, it is the blood that makes atonement. - Lev.17:11
According to this verse an Israelite farmer could have brought gallons of blood drained from live animals to the altar to atone for his sins.
Do you agree or not Fishy?
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556
The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
TD, explain
He did. Clearly and succinctly.
You are either the least intelligent person in the forum or you are deeply dishonest.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
Thank you TD very interesting.
They actually recognised that eating the body of an animal found dead was no more of an issue than touching the carcass. Were they stupid or wicked?
I think OC was right that they just wanted more reasons to be different regardless of who paid the price.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
Thank you for the background Orphan Crow.
Such a needless waste of life based on nothing but pride and arrogance. This is what happens when one or two autocrats are allowed to dominate the lives of millions. This is what puts the religion right on the cult spectrum in my opinion. If there was genuine freedom of thought it would be easy to convince JWs to rethink this issue, or at least to give them pause before sacrificing their child.
I began to research blood as a loyal JW although I had began to have doubts triggered by the '95 Watchtower about the "generation". I read everything I could starting with the little blood booklet. There was a brief comment something like "a measure of guilt resulted from eating the blood of an animal found already dead (Lev.11:38,39)" That was a red light!
I got the concordance out and surveyed every reference to blood in the bible. Within a few hours I had worked out the solution. When I found the Q from R that said it was about accidentally eating blood I knew I was being lied to. I told the other elders I would not be renewing my blood card. That was the beginning of the end.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
It is really staggering to think that if a group of humble men had taken a few days to properly research this issue an awful lot of unnecessary death would have been avoided.
Who is responsible? Knor? Franz? I suppose once there has been a death over this stance back in the 40s there was no going back.
It is wicked!
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
there should not be any symbolic value to God in blood taken from a creature not slaughtered
Therefore blood transfusions are not against god's law. Therefore thousands have died for a theological blunder. Therefore the Watchtower are not led by the holy spirit.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty
I have reconciled every verse regarding blood.
My work here is done. Yours is all ahead of you.