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  If There is no God is Murder Wrong? - Michael Shermer

  by cofty in

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  a very useful 8 minute talk on a topic that is raised frequently by believers in this forum.. ....

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  A very useful 8 minute talk on a topic that is raised frequently by believers in this forum.

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  A baffling physics question

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  for several weeks i've been treating myself to a hot chocolate milk (well, soymilk) before bedtime.

  some 16 oz soymilk which i heat on high in our microwave oven.

  this is just enough time where the liquid begins to bubble along the top edge.. i then take it out of the microwave and place it on my kitchen gram scale, stir it good enough to redistribute the heat, then reset the scale to zero grams.. next, i squeeze in the hershey's sytup, "special dark mildly sweet chocolate" (fat free) into the warmed soymilk till the scale reads some 30 grams.

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  This is just enough time where the liquid begins to bubble along the top edge. - from the OP

  When liquid bubbles it is beginning to boil and is giving off steam.
  
  
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

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  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  So basically just maths then?
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  I'll bet a nickel you have no fans on this site.

  I shall cry myself to sleep!
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nasty and weird.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  I strongly suspect you have never said a kind word in your entire posting history and that you see that as a virtue.
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

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  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  Music is one example.

  What information about the universe do we acquire from music?
  

  If someone claims to have been cured then we can scientifically investigate if such cure indeed had occurred. But we can't put a scientific evidence about the cause of such cure.

  Of course science can investigate such claims. It belongs to the scientific field of epidemiology. In fact the pro-faith Discovery Institute did exactly that. Turns out prayer for healing doesn't work. It's not for you to tell scientists what they can and cannot achieve. If god acts in the world he is fair game for the scrutiny of science.
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

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  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  Scientism = a metaphysical claim about the scientific method being the only valid way to get knowledge about the universe.

  I asked you for a specific example of something we could learn "about the universe" from a source other than the application of science. You refused to give one so we are no further forward.

  One example of scientism is demanding scientific evidence to things beyond the scope of the scientific method

  Yes that does sound like it would be a foolish thing to do. I haven't encountered anybody who does that. Do you mean like expecting science to tell us whether we ought to prefer pistachio or chocolate ice cream?

  On the other hand when theists claim that god acts in the physical world - as you have - it is entirely reasonable to turn to science to investigate those claims. That would be a proper application of science.
  
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  Your position is scientism does not exist? Yes or not? - J_M

  Perhaps somewhere there is somebody who deserves the label - I don't know I have never encountered such a person. Nobody even seems able to agree on a concise definition of the word.

  Can't you see you personally is a follower of scientism in denial?

  That is total nonsense. You have yet to show one single example of anything I have ever said in over 20,000 posts that would justify your accusation.

  You claimed that anybody who asks for scientific evidence of god is guilty of scientism. By that definition almost everybody who has ever lived is that group. It is the most foolish thing I have ever read from a theist on this forum. You just keep redefining science until it is so narrow it excludes everything you find inconvenient.

  You are also a hypocrite because you said your faith was built at least in part on three specific miracles. All such events are subject to examination of the evidence. As soon as somebody asks for evidence you scream "scientism". It is pure intellectual dishonesty and cowardice.

  You also avoid every difficult question you are asked.
  
  
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  Scientism - Nothing But a Childish Insult?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is not uncommon for theists to accuse rational people on this forum of "scientism".. in my opinion it is nothing but a cheap shot from those who know they lack evidence for their beliefs.

  if something like "scientism" actually does exist then i have never encountered it.. here is part of an exchange from another thread - i have brought it here as it was off-topic.... scientism = claim of scientific method being universal and the only valid method of knowledge.

  followers of scientism always demand scientific evidence to anything.

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  But I have never encountered anyone who does that Ruby.

  That is why when JM and others say it it is just a convenient insult.