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  Home schooling website / system for JWs

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  so, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.

  for home-schooling of jw kids:.

  http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.

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  cofty

  I browsed their website; it is appalling!

  Here is a comment - I presume from one of the parents - who ironically calls themself 'top au writers'. What chance do these children have?

  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

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  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  There are different views about panpsychism. Some seriously suggest that rocks and chairs are conscious. That is not a strawman or an exaggeration. If you think that this version of panpsychism is bullshit then you are at opposition with leading voices in the movement.

  Others posit that only complex aggregates of materials have conscious experience.

  All of it is unscientific, untestable and unfalsifiable.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  It appears that you can only tolerate 'panpsychism lite'.

  Full-blooded panpsychism pushes your bullshit meter off the scale does it?
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  So you want to promote the article about panpsychism but you also want to dismiss the clearly stated views of the lead source.

  Okay.

  “Rocks will be conscious, spoons will be conscious, the Earth will be conscious. Any kind of aggregation gives you consciousness.” - David Chalmers, a philosophy of mind professor at New York University
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  “Rocks will be conscious, spoons will be conscious, the Earth will be conscious. Any kind of aggregation gives you consciousness.” - David Chalmers, a philosophy of mind professor at New York University
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  “Rocks will be conscious, spoons will be conscious, the Earth will be conscious. Any kind of aggregation gives you consciousness.” - David Chalmers, a philosophy of mind professor at New York University
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  Your right Tononi suggests that IIT lends credence to panpsychism but the quote you just posted says the exact opposite of the conclusion you came to that 'rocks and humans are fundamentally different in terms of consciousness'.

  I'm bored with this. It is a non-scientific fantasy. If anybody ever comes up with a shred of evidence let me know.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  Actually panpsychism posits that any aggregate - humans or chairs - is conscious in exactly the same way. The only difference is in degree of awareness.

  It contributes nothing. It is nothing but desperation on the part of a few philosophers who are afraid that neuroscientists will eventually claim the prize.

  It is unscientific woo-woo
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  What is the connection between that and 'integrated information theory'? Do you have the slightest idea or are you just posting links you haven't read? - Cofty

  if you had read the article you would know it so why don't you start there? - Hot

  I have read the article and there is no connection. Stop bullshitting.
  
  
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  cofty

  Where can I read about your view of consciousness which is far superior than panpsychism?

  I have never written about consciousness but absolutely anything anybody has ever written on the topic makes more sense than panpsychism. It is unfalsifiable and therefore it isn't science.

  Rocks are not conscious. If you think otherwise go ahead and present your evidence.

  The only book I have read on the topic is 'Consciousness Explained' by Dan Dennett. Brilliant book but I remain unconvinced that he has solved it. The book is on my bookshelf behind me right now. I should reread it sometime but I have a lot of other stuff lined up at the moment.