A quarter of a million people did die and the lives of millions more were destroyed. That suffering was real. Pretending God can make it unhappen is absurd. If you are actually just trying to make Christian apologetics sound ridiculous then well played.
Posts by cofty
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131Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
If God is outside time then maybe he can just as easily stop something yesterday as he can today or tomorrow
Pain and suffering happens to humans in real time. Are you really going to persist with the Rohypnol defense?
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
Which I could have said if you asked me
I challenged you about this callous statement at least half a dozen times. Don't pretend you haven't had ample opportunity to set the record straight. What you meant is very clear from the original context.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
maybe our suffering does not matter as much to God as it does to us.
Then you have changed the topic. I am talking about the god of xtian theism the god and father of Jesus.
This god is love. Love means what we do to promote the well being of others.
I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous... Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. - Matt.5
Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Matt.6
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. - Luke 6
Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. - Luke 12
Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. - Jas.1
"Love ... always protects" - 1 Cor.13
'If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.' - 1 John 3
You are defending a strange god of your own invention.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
SBF - I accused you of being callous for the following..
'My own suspicion, no doubt very unpopular, is that we humans take ourselves too seriously when we think our suffereing matters very much.'
I accused you of being a liar for accusing me of distortions for reminding you that you said that. I provided you with a link to prove that you actually did say that.
This is without a doubt the most callous thing I have read on this forum.
Maybe God can keep the good that has happened while removing the bad.
This makes god the moral equivalent of a rapist who drugs his victim with Rohypnol so that they won't remember their trauma.
You have hit the bedrock of absurdity.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
It's ironic that this thread started with an interesting point about dishonest selective quotations.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
I have not the slightest doubt about your motives SBF
God's perspective about human suffering is not relevant.
It is humans that suffer by god's wilful actions in time and space. This is in direct contradiction to god's self-description.
This is the key point that both you and Earnest refuse to acknowledge.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
SBF - you are a liar and a callous troll.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
Prove what SBF has suggested is wrong - Earnest
Which suggestion of SBF are you referring to?
The fantasy where he suggests that a god of love can randomly kill hundreds of thousands of men, women and children and destroy the lives of millions more, and then reverse time and space to make it all better...
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the one where he callously dismisses human suffering as victims just taking themselves too seriously?
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?
by jukief inby evolution or by creation?
by evolution or by creation?
"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
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cofty
Any idiot can do that
I see what you did there.
SBF's absurdity is not worth further attention. Most of my refutations have been totally ignored by SBF as usual.