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Posts by cofty
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80Are we losing our way a bit at JWN?
by nicolaou infirstly, i want to be crystal clear how grateful i am for jwn.
it's been my place of support for over seventeen years and it's the first online space i direct anyone to if they are taking steps out of the cult.
i am not bashing jwn - i love this place and appreciate the hard work and expense simon puts in to keep it going.
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Since Democrats Are All About the “Children” why does ABORTION Not Bother Them?
by minimus inif everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
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cofty
I just looked up the facts.
The current limit in the UK is 24 weeks.
According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive.
Something doesn't seem right there.
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Since Democrats Are All About the “Children” why does ABORTION Not Bother Them?
by minimus inif everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
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cofty
differentiation between fetus and human being (this one gets murky, but what we have now in place seems reasonable)
Yes I broadly agree. I would be in favour of looking again at whether that limit should be reduced. New technologies are making premature births viable worryingly close to the cut-off for abortion.
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Since Democrats Are All About the “Children” why does ABORTION Not Bother Them?
by minimus inif everything is supposed to be about the lives of children, how can they hypocritically fight to take babies and kill them?
what about the children and their quality of life?.
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cofty
why don't you go educate yourself about what constitutes a baby and stop speaking nonsense - revip
I would be very interested in your thoughts on where we ought to draw the line Redvip. At what point does a fetus deserve protection? What is the key factor? Those are genuine questions by the way - not baiting you at all.
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Helping my husband wake up, need advice.
by Whynot inmy husband is dfed but he is a prime example of someone who was a puppet for the watchtower.
i was able to wake him a little with the sex abuse scandal.
he was an elder and is very familiar with those rules.
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cofty
I want to use the Bible to help him realize that there's no such thing as a "representative of Jehovah" here on earth.
Perhaps you can get him to reflect on the inconsistency of the claims being made by the F&DS.
On the one hand they claim that they are not inspired but are being 'led' by the holy spirit and that they are imperfect and make mistakes.
On the other hand anybody who sincerely disagrees with them on a matter of substance will be accused of apostasy and DFd.
One minute submission to their teachings is a matter of life and death and the next they throw away teachings they have held for many years.
Would it be reasonable to think that if god was using a 'channel' to spread truth on the earth that they would be guilty of major errors?
'As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.' - 1 John 2:27
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Universal sovereignty on trial
by Factfulness ini just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.
they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.
god failed to prove his right to rule.
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cofty
What shepherdless said ^^^^
Consciousness has become another convenient 'gap' in which to hide vague notions of god.
There is no reason to suppose that consciousness is anything other than an emergent property of the brain. Consciousness cannot survive anaesthesia so how does it magically exist outwith our brains?
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Universal sovereignty on trial
by Factfulness ini just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.
they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.
god failed to prove his right to rule.
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cofty
The crashing tree makes vibrations it does not make sound
But absolutely nothing different happens whether a conscious creature was there or not - which is what you were trying to imply.
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Universal sovereignty on trial
by Factfulness ini just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.
they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.
god failed to prove his right to rule.
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cofty
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound?
Yes of course it does.
Consciousness is said to be the ground being.
What does that even mean?
I think to 2 slit experiment and wave collapse function when making an observation, and other such experiments that prove this point to consciousness being everything.
There is no such connection You have just gone full Deepak. Never go full Deepak.
You forgot to throw in the 'q' word.
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Universal sovereignty on trial
by Factfulness ini just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.
they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.
god failed to prove his right to rule.
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cofty
the universe exists in such as way that makes it inevitable in the first place
How so?
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Universal sovereignty on trial
by Factfulness ini just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.
they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.
god failed to prove his right to rule.
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cofty
Yet this first causer had no problem popping into existence without an initial first causer causing this secondary first causer to pop into existence...
SBF gets around this blatant contradiction by simply defining god as needing no beginning. Voila!
It is pure sophistry.