Hooby - I have nothing to substantiate.
I have made a claim that it is not possible to describe the trinity without contradiction, heresy or obscurantism.
It should take very little effort to prove me wrong.
Posts by cofty
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89Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
But you both seem to be enjoying yourselves - Exelder
There is nothing enjoyable about bumping heads with intellectually dishonest people.
I’m not obligated to spend my life responding to whatever you demand, or whatever arguments you assert - Hooby
Your inability to simply state the cornerstone of your faith is duly noted Hooby. You are just one more in a long list of such failures.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
Well you claim that it is “polytheistic”. So apparently you think that you can describe it, (or part of it) just fine !
My claim is that it is impossible to describe the trinity without contradicting yourself or resorting to esoteric language. Most attempts to do so end up in heresy.
It is my contention that christianity is in fact a polytheistic religion.
Cofty wrote: “I used to be a xtian Hooby. I read systematic theologies for fun.” Really? , From which one did you learn that “Christianity is polytheistic”?
None of them. Obviously.
Cofty wrote: “Why is it so impossible for you?” What says that it’s impossible for me?
Your inability to do so is obvious. This is becoming a public embarrassment to you Hooby. Please give it a rest unless you are willing to answer the question.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
Exelder - the point of public conversations on a religious forum is not to change the beliefs of your interlocutor. It is to show to the many silent observers who have left the cult that the dogma of evangelical christianity is as ridiculous as the Watchtower. It may save some a few wasted years looking for an alternative 'truth'.
Posting on a thread just to say that you are not interested in the thread is hardly helpful.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
anyone who is interested can easily obtain resources outlining and defending Trinitarianism - Hooby
Why can nobody describe the trinity succinctly in their own words? Could it be because all you will find in every one of those resources is pure sophistry?
I used to be a xtian Hooby. I read systematic theologies for fun. I am not asking you to defend the trinity or to refer me to a book or website that does so. I am asking you, a christian, to explain the cornerstone of your beliefs as simply and succinctly as possible.
Why is it so impossible for you?
Hooby, Steel, Vander, JWA, ANYBODY?
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
Sorry, but I don’t trust your judgement - Hooby
You don't have to. Everybody who reads your lucid and succinct description of the trinity will be able to judge for themselves.
As for heresy the main three you have to avoid are Patripassianism, Sabellianism (also known as Modalism) and Tritheism. Most attempts to illustrate the trinity fall into one of these.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
Please describe and illustrate the trinity succinctly in your own words, avoiding esoteric language, without self-contradiction or heresy.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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cofty
Hooby - If God has a God then Christianity is a polytheistic religion.
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The Trinity explained from the Whiteboard
by JW Answers ina lot of people are confused over the teaching of the trinity, some doubt it, some outright deny it, where some can't get their head around it.
the bible supports it through scriptural evidence.
this video explains from the whiteboard the difference between the god of the watchtower to the god in the bible.
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cofty
I listened to the video in the OP.
It is called 'The Trinity Explained From a Whiteboard'. It only delivered on half of that promise.
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The Trinity explained from the Whiteboard
by JW Answers ina lot of people are confused over the teaching of the trinity, some doubt it, some outright deny it, where some can't get their head around it.
the bible supports it through scriptural evidence.
this video explains from the whiteboard the difference between the god of the watchtower to the god in the bible.
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cofty
TD - I agree. If belief in the Trinity is crucial for salvation - as most bible-believing xtians assert - it ought to be possible to explain it to your granny.
If somebody can only state something by contradicting yourself or committing a heresy or using esoteric Greek terms - the meaning of which 99.999...% of xtians don't understand - then it ought to be obvious they are defending the indefensible.
Christianity is a polytheistic religion.